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Post by FLCardinalFan on Nov 2, 2021 8:43:45 GMT -7
A play that looks good most of the time because there is a one on one matchup. But there are a lot of flaws to this thinking' Some are discussed in the video below.
Cardinals have a 2nd and goal from the 6
1. That fade is a higher risk than a simple run either by Edmonds, Conner Murray
2. A little bit of a High snap hurt the timing
3. Rashul Douglas played for the Cardinals so he knew a bit more than your average DB about Green and Murray.
4. The play was not designed to go to Green then run the BALL
5. Lack of Space in the endzone
6. AJ Green is unaware he is getting the ball
The Fade Route
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Post by CardSunsCard on Nov 2, 2021 10:01:25 GMT -7
FLCF,
I believe it was a back shoulder fade, which is completely different route that what most folks call a 'fade' route. The back shoulder throw, if timed right is pretty much impossible to cover, because it's not a jump ball where you compete and the taller guy usually wins. On the back shoulder throw, you're intentionally throwing behind the WR, so as long as your timing is correct, no one else has a chance to pick it off - EVER. A baseball analogy would be a picher intentionally throwing low and away, not even trying to hit the strike zone. We are talking tossing it an entire foot off the plate. The catcher may not even catch it, but only he has a shot because he knows it's coming.
That's why the back shoulder has become so popular. There was PLENTY of room for Green/Murray to execute that play. Chances are, Rasul Douglas just knew it was coming so it's easy to step up. While the back shoulder is easy to run in the end zone, it's slightly easier to defend because the corner isn't running full speed and having to come to a full stop. That half second advantage was all Rasul needed given Green didn't even make an attempt for the ball.
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Post by BigRedFan on Nov 2, 2021 18:28:41 GMT -7
It was definitely a back shoulder throw. Perfect mismatch for Green. Speculation now is he didn't hear K1's audible with all the Packer fans cheering on his side of the field. At least that's what some of the local talking heads are offering this week.
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Post by JAB on Nov 2, 2021 21:57:37 GMT -7
It was definitely a back shoulder route Murray audible to. If Green got the signal we probably win the game the ball definitely doesn't get picked off.
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Post by End Zone on Nov 3, 2021 4:37:31 GMT -7
WR A J Green is 6'4" and 210 lbs. He's an experienced WR. He is physically superior to almost any DB. I'd not think twice about passing to Green.
A back-shoulder pass to A J Green at that moment in the game was the perfect audible. Except, that Green was not listening, not watching, and not aware of Murray.
Green was not the first, nor will he be the last, Cardinals WR to flub up a critical pass play in the end zone.
Green is the last Cardinals player to have a chance to extend the season's amazing 7-0 win streak to 8-0 by catching a game-winning TD with 15 seconds to go in the game.
Maybe within the next 50 years, another Cardinals player will be a similar position to catch a football for a TD and extend an amazing win streak. I hope that WR is paying attention. That would be amazing too.
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