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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 21, 2024 10:40:05 GMT -7
I would take JJ straight up for the 4th pick with the vikings, I would do the same for the Bronco's if a pick is thrown in. Giants I would definitely do.
One I saw in a mock draft don't think we can say no to that would be three 1st round picks from Denver 12th this year and 2025 2026, Two first round picks three consecutive seasons as long as we draft good would be great. Thats about it for trades for me. I am gonna say kinda hope we do trade back now we have to think team and trust in Monti. If a trade back don't come I can be very Happy drafting MHJ. I could see the pats trading back with the vikings and them taking a Qb later. and Denver trying to come up for our pick. It is desperation time for teams with no hope if they don't land a Qb this year. I am starting to believe it might be best for us if we can get more picks. Well we are gonna soon find out what these teams think of these Qb's.
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Post by knobby on Apr 21, 2024 10:59:05 GMT -7
I would take JJ straight up for the 4th pick with the vikings, I would do the same for the Bronco's if a pick is thrown in. Disagree. Too costly for either player, and a big risk of them leaving soon for more money elsewhere. They would make more sense as a quick fix if we were "that close" to being winners already... but we're not, yet. Let's trust Monti, coaches and analytics - again... with a good shot of luck added. IMHO
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 21, 2024 17:30:48 GMT -7
I would take JJ straight up for the 4th pick with the vikings, I would do the same for the Bronco's if a pick is thrown in. Disagree. Too costly for either player, and a big risk of them leaving soon for more money elsewhere. They would make more sense as a quick fix if we were "that close" to being winners already... but we're not, yet. Let's trust Monti, coaches and analytics - again... with a good shot of luck added. IMHO They wouldn't do it unless a financial deal was agreed on. You have to have solid players can't be all rookies or drafted players no one is that good.
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Post by BigRedFan on Apr 21, 2024 21:29:21 GMT -7
I love the idea of JJ being a Cardinal. However, he's going to command a huge payday next season. I doubt Cardinals' brass, in the midst of a rebuild, would want to tie up future cap funds to extend JJ when they could draft a rookie contract and hope for the best. Not to say Justin Jefferson isn't worth it. That dude is extra special.
Monti and Sears still have work to do. Hopefully this weekend's draft is a huge success. I have faith in the new brass. I just don't see a scenario where the Cardinals trade the 4th pick straight up for JJ. It seems counter productive with so many glaring needs for this team.
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Post by supercard on Apr 22, 2024 3:16:23 GMT -7
Drafting MHJ a much better option than JJ. Fresh new contract and great production off the bat.
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Post by End Zone on Apr 22, 2024 3:49:56 GMT -7
I would take JJ straight up for the 4th pick with the vikings, I would do the same for the Bronco's if a pick is thrown in. Disagree. Too costly for either player, and a big risk of them leaving soon for more money elsewhere. They would make more sense as a quick fix if we were "that close" to being winners already... but we're not, yet. Let's trust Monti, coaches and analytics - again... with a good shot of luck added. IMHO Agree with you, Knobby. The future Draft picks are insurance in case the veteran JJ or Surtain walks away from ARZ in 2 years. The GM has no control over either player scenario. The GM can control Draft selections for up to 5 years.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 22, 2024 13:20:40 GMT -7
Drafting MHJ a much better option than JJ. Fresh new contract and great production off the bat. Depends on if he gets close to JJ. Looks like the vikings are locking him up up Sounds like to me they are desperate and not sure they will get a legit Qb this so they don't lose JJ or unless they will use him in a sign and trade.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 22, 2024 13:24:38 GMT -7
Disagree. Too costly for either player, and a big risk of them leaving soon for more money elsewhere. They would make more sense as a quick fix if we were "that close" to being winners already... but we're not, yet. Let's trust Monti, coaches and analytics - again... with a good shot of luck added. IMHO Agree with you, Knobby. The future Draft picks are insurance in case the veteran JJ or Surtain walks away from ARZ in 2 years. The GM has no control over either player scenario. The GM can control Draft selections for up to 5 years. Ok guy's there is a way they do it all the time sign and trade deals. Vikings looking like they are gonna sign JJ just in case they suck at Qb or they could use him in a sign and trade. If MHJ can rise to the level of true #1 that is the best deal no guarantees but JJ has done it.
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Post by CardSunsCard on Apr 23, 2024 6:53:32 GMT -7
Agree with you, Knobby. The future Draft picks are insurance in case the veteran JJ or Surtain walks away from ARZ in 2 years. The GM has no control over either player scenario. The GM can control Draft selections for up to 5 years. Ok guy's there is a way they do it all the time sign and trade deals. Vikings looking like they are gonna sign JJ just in case they suck at Qb or they could use him in a sign and trade. If MHJ can rise to the level of true #1 that is the best deal no guarantees but JJ has done it. Situation with JJ is identical to potential Denver trade with Surtain. Only real difference is Surtain is a more premium position AND if WR height is really Achilles heel for Murray, doesn't that mean JJ is out of the question? I mean, is 6 ft 1 enough for Murray? Regardless, I hear Vikings extension is already done.
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Post by knobby on Apr 23, 2024 12:40:44 GMT -7
Ok guy's there is a way they do it all the time sign and trade deals. Vikings looking like they are gonna sign JJ just in case they suck at Qb or they could use him in a sign and trade. If MHJ can rise to the level of true #1 that is the best deal no guarantees but JJ has done it. Situation with JJ is identical to potential Denver trade with Surtain. Only real difference is Surtain is a more premium position AND if WR height is really Achilles heel for Murray, doesn't that mean JJ is out of the question? I mean, is 6 ft 1 enough for Murray? Regardless, I hear Vikings extension is already done. I get the opposite vibe. But with JJ staying away from voluntary practices and rumors that he wants to be with Cousins, it is difficult to know whether it is all posturing for money or whether he
would like to be traded instead. If there was already an agreed deal, wouldn't JJ be inclined to be with the team? Could a pre-arranged trade be kept under the rug?
The outlook for the Vikings QB situation is very much in flux now, so perhaps Friday we will know whether JJ was trade bait or the newest high-dollar WR to be paired with the next miracle working QB draftee in Minnesota.
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