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Post by devongent on Apr 4, 2024 0:41:24 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025.
It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11.
(Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year).
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Post by devongent on Apr 4, 2024 0:46:41 GMT -7
** I would suggest that for the Arizona picks then we should have two seconder's (thus three people in total pledging their support)**
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 4, 2024 10:38:46 GMT -7
Giants offer #6, #47 (2nd) and #107 (4th) for a total of 2110 pts on the draft trade chart. Minn offer by devongent is around 2165 pts. These are both reasonable for our 1800 point #4 plus QB premium.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 4, 2024 11:16:09 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025. It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11. (Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year). Last night on the JV podcast had a prediction mock draft (showed first 12 picks) from Benjamin Albright and for the Cardinals, they traded with the Vikings HOWEVER they got MHJ at #5 !!! Benjamin Albright last year a MONTH before draft predicted Cards would pass on Will Anderson Jr. and look to do the trade down - then back up to get PJJ. So the guy is no fool but below I will try and outline how Monti gets everything he wants according to Benjamin Albright First -- it is believed that J. Harbaugh wants to trade down and the Chargers would accept a trade with the Vikings of #11 and #23 for #5. The only thing is the Vikings are stuck because if they did this and then the Giants call to move up 2 spots with the Cardinals, the Vikings are screwed over. (Devongent - can you check the grapevine to see if indeed Harbaugh would take #11 & #23 for #5 )So based on the above information about the Vikes, Cardinals and Chargers ... imagine this almost simultaneous trade: 1) Cardinals trade #4 for #11, #23, 2025 2nd Rounder plus 2024 4th rounder (#129). Vikings get JJ McCarthy and did not give up (3) 1st's. 2) Cardinals then trade #11 & #23 (same deal allegedly acceptable to Chargers from Vikings) for pick #5. 3) Cardinals then get MHJ at #5 AND secure a "FREE" 2024 4th rounder and a 2025 2nd rounder from the Vikings. 4) Amazingly by getting MHJ at #5 - Cards save money on the rookie contract rather than getting him at #4.
Wrap your heads around the above !!!
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Post by cardinalsins on Apr 4, 2024 12:09:17 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025. It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11. (Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year). Not sure if they have a 2025 2nd
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Post by cardinalsins on Apr 4, 2024 12:23:28 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025. It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11. (Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year). Last night on the JV podcast had a prediction mock draft (showed first 12 picks) from Benjamin Albright and for the Cardinals, they traded with the Vikings HOWEVER they got MHJ at #5 !!! Benjamin Albright last year a MONTH before draft predicted Cards would pass on Will Anderson Jr. and look to do the trade down - then back up to get PJJ. So the guy is no fool but below I will try and outline how Monti gets everything he wants according to Benjamin Albright First -- it is believed that J. Harbaugh wants to trade down and the Chargers would accept a trade with the Vikings of #11 and #23 for #5. The only thing is the Vikings are stuck because if they did this and then the Giants call to move up 2 spots with the Cardinals, the Vikings are screwed over. (Devongent - can you check the grapevine to see if indeed Harbaugh would take #11 & #23 for #5 )So based on the above information about the Vikes, Cardinals and Chargers ... imagine this almost simultaneous trade: 1) Cardinals trade #4 for #11, #23, 2025 2nd Rounder plus 2024 4th rounder (#129). Vikings get JJ McCarthy and did not give up (3) 1st's. 2) Cardinals then trade #11 & #23 (same deal allegedly acceptable to Chargers from Vikings) for pick #5. 3) Cardinals then get MHJ at #5 AND secure a "FREE" 2024 4th rounder and a 2025 2nd rounder from the Vikings. 4) Amazingly by getting MHJ at #5 - Cards save money on the rookie contract rather than getting him at #4.
Wrap your heads around the above !!!
While this would be cool...I think it's highly unlikely. Why would the Chargers be cool this?
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 4, 2024 13:02:43 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025. It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11. (Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year). Not sure if they have a 2025 2nd You are correct I believe -- Texans just traded this 2nd rounder (acquired from Vikes) next year to get Stefon Diggs. Guess the Vikings are going to need to cough up their 2025 1st rounder to Monti.
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Post by devongent on Apr 4, 2024 13:15:31 GMT -7
Not sure if they have a 2025 2nd The eagle eye of cardinalsins spots a significant deficiency with the plan! www.spotrac.com/nfl/draft/2025/minnesota-vikings/The matter had already been raised by the Cardinal top brass and 'an accommodation' has been agreed upon. Plan A (main agreement) - The Vikings are confident about obtaining a second-rounder pick in 2025 via a Trade nearer the time. Should this NOT be achieved then Plan B comes into force instead. Plan B (supplementary agreement) - The Vikings and Cardinals swop picks in 2025. We obtain their first-rounder in exchange for our second-rounder. No 'extra' pick is achieved here, but many consider this a more preferable outcome for the Cardinals. The Vikings are currently confident that the Plan B option will not be necessary.
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 4, 2024 14:49:33 GMT -7
Minnesota offer up (for the #4 pick) #11, #23 and a second-rounder in 2025. It's heard on the grape vine that's their limit. Should we decline what they consider as a 'more than generous offer', then they will probably stick and take their chances #11. (Think about it folks before dismissing out of blind loyalty to a certain WR. - Three first-round picks this year together with an additional second next year). Last night on the JV podcast had a prediction mock draft (showed first 12 picks) from Benjamin Albright and for the Cardinals, they traded with the Vikings HOWEVER they got MHJ at #5 !!! Benjamin Albright last year a MONTH before draft predicted Cards would pass on Will Anderson Jr. and look to do the trade down - then back up to get PJJ. So the guy is no fool but below I will try and outline how Monti gets everything he wants according to Benjamin Albright First -- it is believed that J. Harbaugh wants to trade down and the Chargers would accept a trade with the Vikings of #11 and #23 for #5. The only thing is the Vikings are stuck because if they did this and then the Giants call to move up 2 spots with the Cardinals, the Vikings are screwed over. (Devongent - can you check the grapevine to see if indeed Harbaugh would take #11 & #23 for #5 )So based on the above information about the Vikes, Cardinals and Chargers ... imagine this almost simultaneous trade: 1) Cardinals trade #4 for #11, #23, 2025 2nd Rounder plus 2024 4th rounder (#129). Vikings get JJ McCarthy and did not give up (3) 1st's. 2) Cardinals then trade #11 & #23 (same deal allegedly acceptable to Chargers from Vikings) for pick #5. 3) Cardinals then get MHJ at #5 AND secure a "FREE" 2024 4th rounder and a 2025 2nd rounder from the Vikings. 4) Amazingly by getting MHJ at #5 - Cards save money on the rookie contract rather than getting him at #4.
Wrap your heads around the above !!!
Would be cool, but for the purposes of the forum draft probably a bit too complicated! 🤣 Think we can run a Stick and Pick vs Trade down poll, and then if it’s trade down do a poll for the most popular trade down for the Card’s #4? FL, is that doable? Anyone else have a reasonable trade offer, or any issues with the current offers above not being realistic?
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Post by CardsFanQC on Apr 4, 2024 15:25:16 GMT -7
Last night on the JV podcast had a prediction mock draft (showed first 12 picks) from Benjamin Albright and for the Cardinals, they traded with the Vikings HOWEVER they got MHJ at #5 !!! Benjamin Albright last year a MONTH before draft predicted Cards would pass on Will Anderson Jr. and look to do the trade down - then back up to get PJJ. So the guy is no fool but below I will try and outline how Monti gets everything he wants according to Benjamin Albright First -- it is believed that J. Harbaugh wants to trade down and the Chargers would accept a trade with the Vikings of #11 and #23 for #5. The only thing is the Vikings are stuck because if they did this and then the Giants call to move up 2 spots with the Cardinals, the Vikings are screwed over. (Devongent - can you check the grapevine to see if indeed Harbaugh would take #11 & #23 for #5 )So based on the above information about the Vikes, Cardinals and Chargers ... imagine this almost simultaneous trade: 1) Cardinals trade #4 for #11, #23, 2025 2nd Rounder plus 2024 4th rounder (#129). Vikings get JJ McCarthy and did not give up (3) 1st's. 2) Cardinals then trade #11 & #23 (same deal allegedly acceptable to Chargers from Vikings) for pick #5. 3) Cardinals then get MHJ at #5 AND secure a "FREE" 2024 4th rounder and a 2025 2nd rounder from the Vikings. 4) Amazingly by getting MHJ at #5 - Cards save money on the rookie contract rather than getting him at #4.
Wrap your heads around the above !!!
Would be cool, but for the purposes of the forum draft probably a bit too complicated! 🤣 Think we can run a Stick and Pick vs Trade down poll, and then if it’s trade down do a poll for the most popular trade down for the Card’s #4? FL, is that doable? Anyone else have a reasonable trade offer, or any issues with the current offers above not being realistic? I just want to know if these simultaneous trades can be submitted to the NFL offices for approval at the same time ? I want the NFL to approve the 2 trades conditionally together -- don't want Monti to agree to the Vikes deal and have Jim Harbaugh be able to change his mind 2 minutes later.
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Post by cardinalsins on Apr 4, 2024 16:08:48 GMT -7
Not sure if they have a 2025 2nd The eagle eye of cardinalsins spots a significant deficiency with the plan! www.spotrac.com/nfl/draft/2025/minnesota-vikings/The matter had already been raised by the Cardinal top brass and 'an accommodation' has been agreed upon. Plan A (main agreement) - The Vikings are confident about obtaining a second-rounder pick in 2025 via a Trade nearer the time. Should this NOT be achieved then Plan B comes into force instead. Plan B (supplementary agreement) - The Vikings and Cardinals swop picks in 2025. We obtain their first-rounder in exchange for our second-rounder. No 'extra' pick is achieved here, but many consider this a more preferable outcome for the Cardinals. The Vikings are currently confident that the Plan B option will not be necessary.
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Post by JAB on Apr 4, 2024 16:41:40 GMT -7
First Round Mock Draft Just Tell me When and we will get started. Should be this week! What is the best way to have a member select the pick? First Come first serve or another way? Someone please start. Each Member will have to wait until their selection is up. These drafts take quite a bit of time. I will go last so there are no worries. Several Members have been spot on in the past with their picks. If you would like a slot pick one and fill in your Avatar name 2024 NFL MOCK DRAFT 1. Chicago Bears Caleb Williams QB USC 2. Washington Commanders 3. 4. Cardinals 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Chicago Bears Dry Heat 10. 11. 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24. 25.Green Bay Packers Devongent 26 27 28 29 30 31 32. Kansas City Chiefs FloridaCardinalFan We're going to pick Marvin Harrison Jr after that I really don't care. I will say I rather trade Kyler Murray and use our first two picks in the first round and what I would hope would be a second for Kyler Murray and move to position to start over and pick our next franchise quarterback in my opinion the quarterback from LSU. 6 ft 4 in tall 40 touchdowns 4 interceptions 3800 yards and a lot of room to grow.
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 4, 2024 17:30:47 GMT -7
The eagle eye of cardinalsins spots a significant deficiency with the plan! www.spotrac.com/nfl/draft/2025/minnesota-vikings/The matter had already been raised by the Cardinal top brass and 'an accommodation' has been agreed upon. Plan A (main agreement) - The Vikings are confident about obtaining a second-rounder pick in 2025 via a Trade nearer the time. Should this NOT be achieved then Plan B comes into force instead. Plan B (supplementary agreement) - The Vikings and Cardinals swop picks in 2025. We obtain their first-rounder in exchange for our second-rounder. No 'extra' pick is achieved here, but many consider this a more preferable outcome for the Cardinals. The Vikings are currently confident that the Plan B option will not be necessary. Haha the comments from Vikings fans are rich! So mad at Spielman just like we would be if Keim was opening his yapper in the same situation! One guy is like “you shouldn’t have to give up 3 1sts for QB4”. But you also get the sense they know the price will be steep.
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Post by FLCardinalFan on Apr 4, 2024 17:36:39 GMT -7
We're going to pick Marvin Harrison Jr after that I really don't care. I will say I rather trade Kyler Murray and use our first two picks in the first round and what I would hope would be a second for Kyler Murray and move to position to start over and pick our next franchise quarterback in my opinion the quarterback from LSU. 6 ft 4 in tall 40 touchdowns 4 interceptions 3800 yards and a lot of room to grow. Is it ok for you to pick the Commanders pick of Jayden Daniels? I will put JAB in the post
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Post by devongent on Apr 6, 2024 1:24:59 GMT -7
(Devongent - can you check the grapevine to see if indeed Harbaugh would take #11 & #23 for #5 ) Message has come through..... One hundred percent they will Trade Down from #5 to #11 and #23, and in fact it is said (by an un-named inner-circle source) that their FO have taken to praying daily at their campus, as means of influencing the Arizona Cardinals to draft Marvin Harrison Jr #4 (and thus making the #5 spot attractive for suitors). It is understood that the Charges preferred target #11 would be JC Latham, but should he already be off the board, then they "feel comfortable" with taking Fuaga instead. Around parts of Southern California there is a rumor going around that the Charges FO have set out to 'Hype Harrison' in the hope that it will trigger some team to take him in the top four picks. However, such has not be substantiated in any way, and this sophisticated slogan could actually have been composed by a disgruntled fan sat in a bar in down town San Diego after having had one too many tequila's.
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