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Post by End Zone on Dec 13, 2022 4:13:46 GMT -7
Now, if it’s ACL surgery, Sean Payton becomes near impossible to get. We can’t spare the draft picks and why would he want to come with an injured running QB with an uncertain rehab? It also makes it harder to attract any other top coaching prospect. We’d be looking at a Wilks or college coach hiring that surprises everyone. Like KK. And with that mess, who wants to come here as a FA? I’m feeling ill. I said in an earlier post if it’s a grade 3 tear a injury settlement maybe best for all involved. To me this changes the dynamic we’re drafting probably at 4 or 3 so a new HC gets to pick their QB in a very good year for QB’s & were not as bad off as Houston Indy Denver or Chicago. There are some good “bones” on this team to coach with DH et al, please explain a 'grade 3 tear' for the Forum. Why does grade 3 matter vs. 1 or 2? Meanwhile, I am researching injury settlement procedures and will post what I learn today. Late today the Forum will get the official medical assessment via a team press release. The team won't sit on this news. Every qualified HC on the planet wants to know what Bidwill is going to do with the GM and HC after last night's awful QB injury.
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Post by vwvectors on Dec 13, 2022 12:59:03 GMT -7
I said in an earlier post if it’s a grade 3 tear a injury settlement maybe best for all involved. To me this changes the dynamic we’re drafting probably at 4 or 3 so a new HC gets to pick their QB in a very good year for QB’s & were not as bad off as Houston Indy Denver or Chicago. There are some good “bones” on this team to coach with DH et al, please explain a 'grade 3 tear' for the Forum. Why does grade 3 matter vs. 1 or 2? Meanwhile, I am researching injury settlement procedures and will post what I learn today. Late today the Forum will get the official medical assessment via a team press release. The team won't sit on this news. Every qualified HC on the planet wants to know what Bidwill is going to do with the GM and HC after last night's awful QB injury. Grade 1 is where the ACL is just stretched with minimal damage. Grade 2 is just partial tear Grade 3 is a full tear or rupture & has to be reattached back. There are variables like did the tendon just tear or did it tear & also disconnect from bone as well. It’s a guarantee future mobility will be effected but as to what extent (playing professionally) remains unknown but statically in the NFL the odds of him coming back the same are slim.
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Post by CardCore on Dec 13, 2022 13:02:17 GMT -7
I had my kneecap knocked to the rear side of my leg, ACL, MCL and every other little ligament separated and retracted like broken rubber bands into the bottom of my left leg playing football in college. Kneecap shattered and they took out at least 28 pieces and had to shave down the splinters and rough edges. Several metal screws still in there. My football, basketball, soccer and skiing days were over at 19 yrs old. Other friends had the non-contact ACL and/or MCL deal, and it’s a bad injury but you can come back strong from it. Six months to June if it’s ACL with surgery would probably be best case. For a running QB, an injury like this can really mess with the head as well. That pain is some of the worst I’ve ever felt. Good God! Sounds like somebody swung a crowbar and hit you in the kneecap. How did that happen?
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Post by End Zone on Dec 13, 2022 15:22:04 GMT -7
DH et al, please explain a 'grade 3 tear' for the Forum. Why does grade 3 matter vs. 1 or 2? Meanwhile, I am researching injury settlement procedures and will post what I learn today. Late today the Forum will get the official medical assessment via a team press release. The team won't sit on this news. Every qualified HC on the planet wants to know what Bidwill is going to do with the GM and HC after last night's awful QB injury. Grade 1 is where the ACL is just stretched with minimal damage. Grade 2 is just partial tear Grade 3 is a full tear or rupture & has to be reattached back. There are variables like did the tendon just tear or did it tear & also disconnect from bone as well. It’s a guarantee future mobility will be effected but as to what extent (playing professionally) remains unknown but statically in the NFL the odds of him coming back the same are slim.Thank you very much for explaining the grade 1, 2, and 3 ACL tears for the members. And I noted the comment about the odds of KM coming back the same (assumed hotrod runner). Slim odds is not a high payoff bet.
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Post by Rimrock on Dec 13, 2022 16:18:30 GMT -7
Grade 1 is where the ACL is just stretched with minimal damage. Grade 2 is just partial tear Grade 3 is a full tear or rupture & has to be reattached back. There are variables like did the tendon just tear or did it tear & also disconnect from bone as well. It’s a guarantee future mobility will be effected but as to what extent (playing professionally) remains unknown but statically in the NFL the odds of him coming back the same are slim.Thank you very much for explaining the grade 1, 2, and 3 ACL tears for the members. And I noted the comment about the odds of KM coming back the same (assumed hotrod runner). Slim odds is not a high payoff bet. At least he has plenty of $$$ to aid his recovery
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Post by Dry Heat on Dec 13, 2022 16:45:39 GMT -7
I had my kneecap knocked to the rear side of my leg, ACL, MCL and every other little ligament separated and retracted like broken rubber bands into the bottom of my left leg playing football in college. Kneecap shattered and they took out at least 28 pieces and had to shave down the splinters and rough edges. Several metal screws still in there. My football, basketball, soccer and skiing days were over at 19 yrs old. Other friends had the non-contact ACL and/or MCL deal, and it’s a bad injury but you can come back strong from it. Six months to June if it’s ACL with surgery would probably be best case. For a running QB, an injury like this can really mess with the head as well. That pain is some of the worst I’ve ever felt. Good God! Sounds like somebody swung a crowbar and hit you in the kneecap. How did that happen? Me being a dumb 19 year old, trying to impress the ladies. Second day on campus, just a bunch of us on a practice field lined with pine trees ten yards off the sidelines. Was no pads and supposed to be light contact two hand touch kind of scrimmage game preparing for an intramural season. Towards the end it got competitive because a crowd had gathered to watch. It turned into all out hitting and tackle. One side challenged the other side to a “next team to score, other side buys pizza” and it was on. I was at WR and caught a pass along the sideline and got hit but stayed in tip-toeing the line, then all the sudden the safety just nailed me and sent me deep out of bounds and right into a pine tree. My body was all bloody and punctured by broken limbs and they dragged me out. I wasn’t feeling anything. I looked down and my left leg looked like a weird flesh tube, and all the sudden I realized my kneecap was in the back of my leg. I started hitting it trying to spin it back to the front and everyone looked like they were gonna puke. Then it finally did move to the front but was disconnected. All the sudden I felt like I was gonna puke, and then the pain finally hit. The guys pulled a car up on the grass and lifted me to the back and got me to the university’s medical facility, where the athletic doctors cleaned me up and diagnosed. The kneecap was shattered, ligaments snapped clean from bone and all over the place. Other not as serious injuries from the tree that needed cleaning up and butterfly bandages and stitches. Then a wheelchair for a while, then surgeries, then crutches, then about a year of rehab, but it messed my knee up for the rest of my life. Still can’t trust it, limited the types of sports I could continue doing, still in pain depending on weather. It’s honestly one of the reasons I ended up in AZ. Good news is I was on crutches rehabbing when my future wife, who watched the injury happen (I didn’t even know her then), invited me and some friends to her gymnastics competition months later. During the competition she got an ankle injury and I adjusted and lent her my crutches. We both ended up on crutches for the rest of the semester, limping behind the rest of our friends when we all went out, then hitting the gym together for rehab, then dating, and the rest is history. It was all worth it, she’s above my pay grade.
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Post by Rimrock on Dec 13, 2022 17:26:26 GMT -7
Good God! Sounds like somebody swung a crowbar and hit you in the kneecap. How did that happen? Me being a dumb 19 year old, trying to impress the ladies. Second day on campus, just a bunch of us on a practice field lined with pine trees ten yards off the sidelines. Was no pads and supposed to be light contact two hand touch kind of scrimmage game preparing for an intramural season. Towards the end it got competitive because a crowd had gathered to watch. It turned into all out hitting and tackle. One side challenged the other side to a “next team to score, other side buys pizza” and it was on. I was at WR and caught a pass along the sideline and got hit but stayed in tip-toeing the line, then all the sudden the safety just nailed me and sent me deep out of bounds and right into a pine tree. My body was all bloody and punctured by broken limbs and they dragged me out. I wasn’t feeling anything. I looked down and my left leg looked like a weird flesh tube, and all the sudden I realized my kneecap was in the back of my leg. I started hitting it trying to spin it back to the front and everyone looked like they were gonna puke. Then it finally did move to the front but was disconnected. All the sudden I felt like I was gonna puke, and then the pain finally hit. The guys pulled a car up on the grass and lifted me to the back and got me to the university’s medical facility, where the athletic doctors cleaned me up and diagnosed. The kneecap was shattered, ligaments snapped clean from bone and all over the place. Other not as serious injuries from the tree that needed cleaning up and butterfly bandages and stitches. Then a wheelchair for a while, then surgeries, then crutches, then about a year of rehab, but it messed my knee up for the rest of my life. Still can’t trust it, limited the types of sports I could continue doing, still in pain depending on weather. It’s honestly one of the reasons I ended up in AZ. Good news is I was on crutches rehabbing when my future wife, who watched the injury happen (I didn’t even know her then), invited me and some friends to her gymnastics competition months later. During the competition she got an ankle injury and I adjusted and lent her my crutches. We both ended up on crutches for the rest of the semester, limping behind the rest of our friends when we all went out, then hitting the gym together for rehab, then dating, and the rest is history. It was all worth it, she’s above my pay grade. Sounds like you got the good end of that disaster...one just never knows about unanswered prayers Us humans have know idea what's best for us...could be kylers knee is a Godsend Of course he does have the better part of 200m to cushion him..lol
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Post by CardCore on Dec 15, 2022 10:23:49 GMT -7
Good God! Sounds like somebody swung a crowbar and hit you in the kneecap. How did that happen? Me being a dumb 19 year old, trying to impress the ladies. Second day on campus, just a bunch of us on a practice field lined with pine trees ten yards off the sidelines. Was no pads and supposed to be light contact two hand touch kind of scrimmage game preparing for an intramural season. Towards the end it got competitive because a crowd had gathered to watch. It turned into all out hitting and tackle. One side challenged the other side to a “next team to score, other side buys pizza” and it was on. I was at WR and caught a pass along the sideline and got hit but stayed in tip-toeing the line, then all the sudden the safety just nailed me and sent me deep out of bounds and right into a pine tree. My body was all bloody and punctured by broken limbs and they dragged me out. I wasn’t feeling anything. I looked down and my left leg looked like a weird flesh tube, and all the sudden I realized my kneecap was in the back of my leg. I started hitting it trying to spin it back to the front and everyone looked like they were gonna puke. Then it finally did move to the front but was disconnected. All the sudden I felt like I was gonna puke, and then the pain finally hit. The guys pulled a car up on the grass and lifted me to the back and got me to the university’s medical facility, where the athletic doctors cleaned me up and diagnosed. The kneecap was shattered, ligaments snapped clean from bone and all over the place. Other not as serious injuries from the tree that needed cleaning up and butterfly bandages and stitches. Then a wheelchair for a while, then surgeries, then crutches, then about a year of rehab, but it messed my knee up for the rest of my life. Still can’t trust it, limited the types of sports I could continue doing, still in pain depending on weather. It’s honestly one of the reasons I ended up in AZ. Good news is I was on crutches rehabbing when my future wife, who watched the injury happen (I didn’t even know her then), invited me and some friends to her gymnastics competition months later. During the competition she got an ankle injury and I adjusted and lent her my crutches. We both ended up on crutches for the rest of the semester, limping behind the rest of our friends when we all went out, then hitting the gym together for rehab, then dating, and the rest is history. It was all worth it, she’s above my pay grade. "Come out to the field, we'll have a few drinks, have a little fun!" I realize there was no drinking going on, but I couldn't help picturing Bruce Willis saying that. I guess all's well that ends well, but wow... thanks for sharing DH..
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Post by End Zone on Dec 15, 2022 10:51:09 GMT -7
Good God! Sounds like somebody swung a crowbar and hit you in the kneecap. How did that happen? Me being a dumb 19 year old, trying to impress the ladies. Second day on campus, just a bunch of us on a practice field lined with pine trees ten yards off the sidelines. Was no pads and supposed to be light contact two hand touch kind of scrimmage game preparing for an intramural season. Towards the end it got competitive because a crowd had gathered to watch. It turned into all out hitting and tackle. One side challenged the other side to a “next team to score, other side buys pizza” and it was on. I was at WR and caught a pass along the sideline and got hit but stayed in tip-toeing the line, then all the sudden the safety just nailed me and sent me deep out of bounds and right into a pine tree. My body was all bloody and punctured by broken limbs and they dragged me out. I wasn’t feeling anything. I looked down and my left leg looked like a weird flesh tube, and all the sudden I realized my kneecap was in the back of my leg. I started hitting it trying to spin it back to the front and everyone looked like they were gonna puke. Then it finally did move to the front but was disconnected. All the sudden I felt like I was gonna puke, and then the pain finally hit. The guys pulled a car up on the grass and lifted me to the back and got me to the university’s medical facility, where the athletic doctors cleaned me up and diagnosed. The kneecap was shattered, ligaments snapped clean from bone and all over the place. Other not as serious injuries from the tree that needed cleaning up and butterfly bandages and stitches. Then a wheelchair for a while, then surgeries, then crutches, then about a year of rehab, but it messed my knee up for the rest of my life. Still can’t trust it, limited the types of sports I could continue doing, still in pain depending on weather. It’s honestly one of the reasons I ended up in AZ. Good news is I was on crutches rehabbing when my future wife, who watched the injury happen (I didn’t even know her then), invited me and some friends to her gymnastics competition months later. During the competition she got an ankle injury and I adjusted and lent her my crutches. We both ended up on crutches for the rest of the semester, limping behind the rest of our friends when we all went out, then hitting the gym together for rehab, then dating, and the rest is history. It was all worth it, she’s above my pay grade. Heck of a "It's A Wonderful Life" story for you. Thanks for sharing that one. Your good looks, positive outlook, relentless ambition, never giving up, and heartfelt generosity are the things that sealed the deal for your future wife.
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