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Post by aris on May 1, 2021 10:53:34 GMT -7
Another dumpster fire of a draft. What's with drafting linebackers who will have trouble adjusting to a set position in the NFL. Our draft history with Keim is littered with them. Dbuc,, Reddick all first round guys who couldnt adjust to the NFL. (Reddick finally did and he was gone). This kid in the first round is 270 pounds. He's going to struggle. Our second round pick has missed 11 of the past 18 games. But he's fast and can squat 600 pounds. But can he play football? Another small school kid who Keim is so in love with. Keim loves small school type kids because he wants to outsmart everyone. But it doesnt work out to well. How many guys has he drafted from Alabama? It's too obvious for the genius to do so. His EGO is so huge. The Jets swooped in and took the the Olineman that I suspect we would have taken (and should have). That's how it's done in the NFL. You don't sit on your hands waiting to have things happen. We lost out on Mahomes with that type of inaction. Remember the draft two years ago when Genius Keim took 3 WR's in the draft and everyone was raving about his draft. None of them are any good.
Both Keim and Bidwell are mediocre men. Bidwell inherited the team from dad who was maybe the worst owner in sports. So by raising it to mediocrity Bidwell Jr. is considering himself a success.
Keim sunk the team to the worst depths and inherited a Franchise QB. He can be one of the worst GM's in the NFL (and he is) and just by having Kyler we will be mediocre. Signing AJ Green to 6 million a year? What a joke. He's a league minimum guy . I love JJ Watts.....from 5 years ago. Our running backs will be terrible this year. Our Oline will be slightly better. We have no corners. Byron Murphy is a nickel CB who was taken as the top pick in the second round (never should waste draft capital on a nickel CB). Our coach is a guy who looks like he does more prep work on his wardrobe at Nordstroms than in games. He's a beta male who lacks authority in a sport of alpha males.
Anyway looking forward to the season and sharing insights with you all. Hope you enjoyed the draft.
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Post by MT Diesel on May 1, 2021 11:09:17 GMT -7
I wasn’t expecting O-line to be drafted due to fourteen on roster already. Collins wasn’t my first choice, but ILB was a glaring need with Hicks lack of ability to cover and wasn’t strong in run support. Collins has skills and plenty of experience at ILB and rated best coverage skills for LBS so he isn’t the reach you suggest. I agree with the frustration, SK tends to blow picks and gives them away also. It is hard to build in draft with few picks in first three rounds.
I don’t share the last place in NFC. It could happen even with a strong draft class. There are four more picks in last two rounds, not good area to find starters. Hope we see a couple FAs picked up post draft.
I definitely share your frustration.
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Post by birdgangaz on May 1, 2021 11:16:11 GMT -7
I think we will do better than last year, but yah i doubt time will be kind to this draft. The top two picks may never even start.
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Post by cardinalsins on May 1, 2021 11:18:08 GMT -7
Our coach is a guy who looks like he does more prep work on his wardrobe at Nordstroms than in games. He's a beta male who lacks authority in a sport of alpha males. Anyway looking forward to the season and sharing insights with you all. Hope you enjoyed the draft. You know...I thought this with regard to the phone calls to the picks this year. Keim uses a corded phone to call the picks, and hands it over to K2 to answer. The dude just crouches to the side without even a chair...it was weird. Was it just inconvenient...maybe. |
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Post by Dry Heat on May 1, 2021 11:20:27 GMT -7
I don’t share the pessimism of free agency, but I am not feeling this draft at all. Hope I’m wrong about it.
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Post by cardinalsdo on May 1, 2021 11:25:28 GMT -7
I thought it was just me. Keim has had really poor drafts in the past but I think this could be arguably his worst so far. Not only did he not address key needs but he passed on much better players who were available How do you draft another really short wide receiver in the second round especially one who has been injury prone and only played in 8 games in the last two seasons.
I was not as impressed with our free agency as most fans. JJ Watt is a feel good story but he is injury prone and older. Watt's contract is bad too. We would be lucky if he lasts the season. AJ Green is also past his prime and is being sold as if we acquired a top shelf wide receiver. The only good acquisition was Rodney Hudson. I will give Keim kudos for that trade as we gave up little to acquire him.
I don't see us improving next season. I think we will be worse. We still struggle to run the ball. We still have no cornerbacks. The defensive line can't stop the run or create pressure. We still have no quality starting #2 wide receiver meaning a traditional receiver that plays wide and stretches the field. We still have no TE. Our head coach still cannot call plays or make adjustments.
I predict we will finish with a losing record, miss the playoffs and KK will be fired but Keim wil be retained.
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Post by belac44 on May 1, 2021 11:28:22 GMT -7
Another dumpster fire of a draft. What's with drafting linebackers who will have trouble adjusting to a set position in the NFL. Our draft history with Keim is littered with them. Dbuc,, Reddick all first round guys who couldnt adjust to the NFL. (Reddick finally did and he was gone). This kid in the first round is 270 pounds. He's going to struggle. Our second round pick has missed 11 of the past 18 games. But he's fast and can squat 600 pounds. But can he play football? Another small school kid who Keim is so in love with. Keim loves small school type kids because he wants to outsmart everyone. But it doesnt work out to well. How many guys has he drafted from Alabama? It's too obvious for the genius to do so. His EGO is so huge. The Jets swooped in and took the the Olineman that I suspect we would have taken (and should have). That's how it's done in the NFL. You don't sit on your hands waiting to have things happen. We lost out on Mahomes with that type of inaction. Remember the draft two years ago when Genius Keim took 3 WR's in the draft and everyone was raving about his draft. None of them are any good. Both Keim and Bidwell are mediocre men. Bidwell inherited the team from dad who was maybe the worst owner in sports. So by raising it to mediocrity Bidwell Jr. is considering himself a success. Keim sunk the team to the worst depths and inherited a Franchise QB. He can be one of the worst GM's in the NFL (and he is) and just by having Kyler we will be mediocre. Signing AJ Green to 6 million a year? What a joke. He's a league minimum guy . I love JJ Watts.....from 5 years ago. Our running backs will be terrible this year. Our Oline will be slightly better. We have no corners. Byron Murphy is a nickel CB who was taken as the top pick in the second round (never should waste draft capital on a nickel CB). Our coach is a guy who looks like he does more prep work on his wardrobe at Nordstroms than in games. He's a beta male who lacks authority in a sport of alpha males. Anyway looking forward to the season and sharing insights with you all. Hope you enjoyed the draft. Your post kind of ran together, are you saying Purdue is a small school? |
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Post by FLCardinalFan on May 1, 2021 11:29:10 GMT -7
One thing I hated in the draft call
Steve Keim said to Rondale Moore
" I am going to let you talk to Coach Kingsbury"
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Post by cardinalsdo on May 1, 2021 11:44:40 GMT -7
Another dumpster fire of a draft. What's with drafting linebackers who will have trouble adjusting to a set position in the NFL. Our draft history with Keim is littered with them. Dbuc,, Reddick all first round guys who couldnt adjust to the NFL. (Reddick finally did and he was gone). This kid in the first round is 270 pounds. He's going to struggle. Our second round pick has missed 11 of the past 18 games. But he's fast and can squat 600 pounds. But can he play football? Another small school kid who Keim is so in love with. Keim loves small school type kids because he wants to outsmart everyone. But it doesnt work out to well. How many guys has he drafted from Alabama? It's too obvious for the genius to do so. His EGO is so huge. The Jets swooped in and took the the Olineman that I suspect we would have taken (and should have). That's how it's done in the NFL. You don't sit on your hands waiting to have things happen. We lost out on Mahomes with that type of inaction. Remember the draft two years ago when Genius Keim took 3 WR's in the draft and everyone was raving about his draft. None of them are any good. Both Keim and Bidwell are mediocre men. Bidwell inherited the team from dad who was maybe the worst owner in sports. So by raising it to mediocrity Bidwell Jr. is considering himself a success. Keim sunk the team to the worst depths and inherited a Franchise QB. He can be one of the worst GM's in the NFL (and he is) and just by having Kyler we will be mediocre. Signing AJ Green to 6 million a year? What a joke. He's a league minimum guy . I love JJ Watts.....from 5 years ago. Our running backs will be terrible this year. Our Oline will be slightly better. We have no corners. Byron Murphy is a nickel CB who was taken as the top pick in the second round (never should waste draft capital on a nickel CB). Our coach is a guy who looks like he does more prep work on his wardrobe at Nordstroms than in games. He's a beta male who lacks authority in a sport of alpha males. Anyway looking forward to the season and sharing insights with you all. Hope you enjoyed the draft. Your post kind of ran together, are you saying Purdue is a small school? Purdue plays in the Big Ten but it's not a great football program. Purdue has been one of the worst programs in the Big Ten in the last 10 years. They finished with a winning record only twice in the last 10 years (2011 and 2017) and that too with a 7-6 record both times. It's not difficult to finish with a winning record in college football since you can schedule 4 non-conference cupcakes to pad your record. So I understand where Aris is coming from. When you think of recruiting from the best college football programs, Purdue does not immediately come to mind. |
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Post by Dry Heat on May 1, 2021 12:31:51 GMT -7
Your post kind of ran together, are you saying Purdue is a small school? Purdue plays in the Big Ten but it's not a great football program. Purdue has been one of the worst programs in the Big Ten in the last 10 years. They finished with a winning record only twice in the last 10 years (2011 and 2017) and that too with a 7-6 record both times. It's not difficult to finish with a winning record in college football since you can schedule 4 non-conference cupcakes to pad your record. So I understand where Aris is coming from. When you think of recruiting from the best college football programs, Purdue does not immediately come to mind. Yep. It’s like taking an NAU grad for your engineering position when MIT, Cal Tech and USC grads were there for the taking, just because she or he got a 4.0. There is a reason these guys made it into the best football programs, and once there they were coached by multi-million dollar coaches in top training facilities competing with and against the best in the nation. |
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Post by cardinalsdo on May 1, 2021 13:05:53 GMT -7
Another dumpster fire of a draft. What's with drafting linebackers who will have trouble adjusting to a set position in the NFL. Our draft history with Keim is littered with them. Dbuc,, Reddick all first round guys who couldnt adjust to the NFL. (Reddick finally did and he was gone). This kid in the first round is 270 pounds. He's going to struggle. Our second round pick has missed 11 of the past 18 games. But he's fast and can squat 600 pounds. But can he play football? Another small school kid who Keim is so in love with. Keim loves small school type kids because he wants to outsmart everyone. But it doesnt work out to well. How many guys has he drafted from Alabama? It's too obvious for the genius to do so. His EGO is so huge. The Jets swooped in and took the the Olineman that I suspect we would have taken (and should have). That's how it's done in the NFL. You don't sit on your hands waiting to have things happen. We lost out on Mahomes with that type of inaction. Remember the draft two years ago when Genius Keim took 3 WR's in the draft and everyone was raving about his draft. None of them are any good. Both Keim and Bidwell are mediocre men. Bidwell inherited the team from dad who was maybe the worst owner in sports. So by raising it to mediocrity Bidwell Jr. is considering himself a success. Keim sunk the team to the worst depths and inherited a Franchise QB. He can be one of the worst GM's in the NFL (and he is) and just by having Kyler we will be mediocre. Signing AJ Green to 6 million a year? What a joke. He's a league minimum guy . I love JJ Watts.....from 5 years ago. Our running backs will be terrible this year. Our Oline will be slightly better. We have no corners. Byron Murphy is a nickel CB who was taken as the top pick in the second round (never should waste draft capital on a nickel CB). Our coach is a guy who looks like he does more prep work on his wardrobe at Nordstroms than in games. He's a beta male who lacks authority in a sport of alpha males. Anyway looking forward to the season and sharing insights with you all. Hope you enjoyed the draft. Steve Keim has been getting a pass on the Byron Murphy pick. He was not drafted to be a nickel corner. He was drafted to be a starter. No one drafts a nickel corner with the first pick in the second round. That is obvious. Nickel corners are always drafted in later rounds and there are plenty of them in the 5th and 6th round. He was not good enough to start so revisionist history was applied. Murphy is not a bust. He has contributed to the team. But there were better players available at that pick. Jawaan Taylor Greg Little and Cody Ford come to mind. There were several fans who wanted to draft a lineman to protect their new rookie QB and they went with Byron Murphy.
He should not receive credit for drafting Kyler Murray. Keim's decisions led to us receiving the first pick. We had a glaring need at QB. Murary was the Heisman trophy winner and there were no other good QB prospects in that draft. Who was he supposed to draft instead? Nick Bosa No GM would have drafted Nick Bosa over Kyler Murray in the Cardinal's situation. GM's are about self preservation. If Murray doesn't work out, you will still have a job at the end of the day because that's pick you are supposed to make. You lose nothing. If he drafts Bosa and Murray plays well, you would still be criticized even if Bosa plays well.
If Keim had prioritized and drafted offensive lineman early in the draft, we would have made the playoffs. The running game would have been better and we would have won more close games. We would have been able to retain leads.
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Post by itancan on May 1, 2021 14:30:33 GMT -7
Another underwelming draft by our fearless leader SK. This might be his worst draft since he has been here. When will MB wake up and realise SK isn't an average GM let alone a good one. Time for Mike to finally can this clown.
Taking a 5' 7 injury prone receiver in the 2nd round when there was a good TE still on the board is just plain . Then trading up to take a CB who doesn't like to tackle. Hello PP21 dash 2.0. How much more does MB need to see. It was a big mistake to hire SK as the GM. Time to go out side the orginization to get a new GM and let him bring his people in. Get the stink of the Cards way of doing things out of the front office. Time for a complete overhaul in the front office.
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Post by CardSunsCard on May 1, 2021 14:44:38 GMT -7
Your post kind of ran together, are you saying Purdue is a small school? Purdue plays in the Big Ten but it's not a great football program. Purdue has been one of the worst programs in the Big Ten in the last 10 years. They finished with a winning record only twice in the last 10 years (2011 and 2017) and that too with a 7-6 record both times. It's not difficult to finish with a winning record in college football since you can schedule 4 non-conference cupcakes to pad your record. So I understand where Aris is coming from. When you think of recruiting from the best college football programs, Purdue does not immediately come to mind. Guess you guys would have p assed on drew brees then |
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Post by CardSunsCard on May 1, 2021 14:47:34 GMT -7
Guys should wait until draft is over to pronounce it a sucky class. Would I have done things different? Sure. But I haven’t seen any Andy Isabella pics this year and some lad round guys aren’t bad. The only kid I’m not sold on is the duke kid. The rest all have talent. As long as one of the two corner picks sticks, we should be fine.
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Post by birdgangaz on May 1, 2021 15:05:16 GMT -7
Your post kind of ran together, are you saying Purdue is a small school? Purdue plays in the Big Ten but it's not a great football program. Purdue has been one of the worst programs in the Big Ten in the last 10 years. They finished with a winning record only twice in the last 10 years (2011 and 2017) and that too with a 7-6 record both times. It's not difficult to finish with a winning record in college football since you can schedule 4 non-conference cupcakes to pad your record. So I understand where Aris is coming from. When you think of recruiting from the best college football programs, Purdue does not immediately come to mind. Performance and stats against competition is what matters for individual players, which is why tulsa is in fact a risky pick. Going this direction with Purdue is taking your eye off the ball imo. |
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