P16
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Post by P16 on Oct 1, 2018 5:24:02 GMT -7
Discuss.
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Post by jrobinson on Oct 1, 2018 5:52:23 GMT -7
The creation of this thread leads me to potentially believe that there is early dissatisfaction with your HC. What has he done, or not done to bring up Arians?
Or, I could completely be misreading into this and made a response 😬
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 1, 2018 5:57:02 GMT -7
Seeing Rosen throw the deep ball on target and having the ability to extend the play if need be he would have done well if we still had John Brown or more guys that could catch the ball. I hope Rosen rolls out more or moves around a little more to keep defenses wondering where he is gonna be so he don't get trapped in the pocket that actually will help the oline as well. I rather it be by design.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 1, 2018 6:01:07 GMT -7
The creation of this thread leads me to potentially believe that there is early dissatisfaction with your HC. What has he done, or not done to bring up Arians? Or, I could completely be misreading into this and made a response 😬 I think it's unanimous amongst the fans that most think this coaching staff is not very good and most believe Wilks is in over his head. I think without a doubt we like the head coach just don't think he is head coach material at this point in his career.
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Post by jrobinson on Oct 1, 2018 6:11:54 GMT -7
The creation of this thread leads me to potentially believe that there is early dissatisfaction with your HC. What has he done, or not done to bring up Arians? Or, I could completely be misreading into this and made a response 😬 I think it's unanimous amongst the fans that most think this coaching staff is not very good and most believe Wilks is in over his head. I think without a doubt we like the head coach just don't think he is head coach material at this point in his career. Gosh. Not a safe feeling by any means. Made the right call to go with Rosen though.
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Post by NorthernSoul on Oct 1, 2018 6:38:30 GMT -7
He'd be throwing fade routes to a small receiver, and we would be complaining of wasting his ability.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2018 6:59:09 GMT -7
Seeing Rosen throw the deep ball on target and having the ability to extend the play if need be he would have done well if we still had John Brown or more guys that could catch the ball. I hope Rosen rolls out more or moves around a little more to keep defenses wondering where he is gonna be so he don't get trapped in the pocket that actually will help the oline as well. I rather it be by design. And under BA it would be by design as you've pointed out. This same team that was devastated by O-line injuries in 2016 (7-8-1) and 2017 (8-8) would now be at the very least 2-2 if not 3-1 under BA's leadership even with Goodwin's Not so good O-line coaching. SB would've lived up to his billing in the Off season or exposed by BA's system very early. And his failure to move the Team would've been rectified by Rosen starting soon rather than later. This D and it's additions in a 3-4 would have been much stouter from the get go. Especially with Golden's return. Adding Benwikere and Boston would've allowed Bettcher more leeway with the CB2 position after HB's decision to hold out and subsequently being released and the signed to Houston for Less than he could've had by accepting the Card's restructuring offer. But that did not happen. And no Wilk's decision on naming McCoy as his OC is biting him in the backside. Wilk's and Holcomb's desire to run a 4-3 (because that is what they've done so far in their careers) with 3-4 personnel is experiencing severe growing pains. But it is at least starting to show some life. There is hope for the D to be at least close to it's former 3-4 iteration of the past several seasons. Under BA Rosen would now be as hot a topic in the NFL media world as is Mayfield in Cleveland and more so than Darnold, Allen and Jackson. And would most likely have better overall numbers to back up his developing play. This is, of course, all my own opinion of how BA would've handled this years team.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Oct 1, 2018 8:05:05 GMT -7
I think it's unanimous amongst the fans that most think this coaching staff is not very good and most believe Wilks is in over his head. I think without a doubt we like the head coach just don't think he is head coach material at this point in his career. Gosh. Not a safe feeling by any means. Made the right call to go with Rosen though. He was my favorite of all the Qb's didn't think we would have a shot at him.
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Post by jonlp24 on Oct 1, 2018 9:40:27 GMT -7
The problem is BA would stick with Drew Stanton or bring back Ryan Lindley for the playoffs. I finally like our QB situation.
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on Oct 1, 2018 9:48:08 GMT -7
The problem is BA would stick with Drew Stanton or bring back Ryan Lindley for the playoffs. I finally like our QB situation. Haha true... he would probably say that Rosen needs to sit and develop for a couple seasons.... or maybe not. Who knows?
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Post by Zaz on Oct 1, 2018 9:49:35 GMT -7
No question Rosen would probably thrive
however one must remember all the things that come back with BA:
1. Amos 2. special teams fielding punts at the 2 yard line 3. Always taking the ball at coin toss 4. endzone jump balls to the shortest guy on the roster 5. up the gut runs every run play for 0 yards gain (although that wouldnt change from mccoys current offense) 6. throwing 40 yard incomplete passes on 3rd and 2. 7. Dawson missing 15 straight kicks but never getting fired 8. no stretching
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Post by ~MainEvent~ on Oct 1, 2018 10:05:25 GMT -7
No question Rosen would probably thrive however one must remember all the things that come back with BA: 1. Amos 2. special teams fielding punts at the 2 yard line 3. Always taking the ball at coin toss 4. endzone jump balls to the shortest guy on the roster 5. up the gut runs every run play for 0 yards gain (although that wouldnt change from mccoys current offense) 6. throwing 40 yard incomplete passes on 3rd and 2. 7. Dawson missing 15 straight kicks but never getting fired 8. no stretching We were never sitting at 0-4 despite any of these irrelevant complaints you guys used to get upset over. Would happily take a fade to a short WR because it means we actually got to the redzone which is a rarity these first 4 games
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Post by r1ppedcardfan on Oct 1, 2018 10:06:52 GMT -7
No question Rosen would probably thrive however one must remember all the things that come back with BA: 1. Amos 2. special teams fielding punts at the 2 yard line 3. Always taking the ball at coin toss 4. endzone jump balls to the shortest guy on the roster 5. up the gut runs every run play for 0 yards gain (although that wouldnt change from mccoys current offense) 6. throwing 40 yard incomplete passes on 3rd and 2. 7. Dawson missing 15 straight kicks but never getting fired 8. no stretching 1. Amos is gone. 2. He's seeing things from a different prospective now. 3. I wish he would come out of retirement now that he has a Young QB that can "spin it". 4. I know this is ridiculous.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Oct 1, 2018 10:13:44 GMT -7
Rosen getting sacked and destroyed by opposing defenses instead of Palmer? 2016 and 2017, anyway. Before that, when opposing DCs hadn't yet turned The Whisperer into Rex Arians, yeah it would have been awesome.
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Post by One_Heartbeat on Oct 1, 2018 10:16:44 GMT -7
He'd be throwing fade routes to a small receiver, and we would be complaining of wasting his ability. Yeah he would be throwing a lot more balls to speedy pipsqueak JJ Nelson and watching them fall harmlessly to the ground.
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