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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2018 16:29:42 GMT -7
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Post by WhyOwhy on Aug 31, 2018 15:11:07 GMT -7
It would be in his movements best interest to make it as public and drawn out as possible.
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Post by End Zone on Aug 31, 2018 16:15:07 GMT -7
The arbitrator made the right decision. Kick the case into the court system. Given CK's political and media connections, I see his NFL owner collusion case going from 9th District Court all the way to the USSC, on multiple costly appeals lasting maybe years, but only if CK doesn't settle first.
CK is broke today. He needs a sugar daddy.
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Post by Rimrock on Aug 31, 2018 19:29:41 GMT -7
how could he be broke lol
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2018 21:54:45 GMT -7
how could he be broke lol LOL!......exactly. Dude is still making donations
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Post by JAB on Sept 3, 2018 18:24:30 GMT -7
This is all . If the guy could lead a team and win he would be playing end of story. No one is going to have a back up on their team hurting their brand with all that junk. Sports today is the same as it was way back. Player X can do what he wants if he's a stud why player B is out looking for a job if he's not.
Jimmy Jonson was asked about a player once I can't remember the payer but it was in the lines of what will he do if said player keeps drinking. He said if he's getting the job done nothing. If not he will cut him the next day.
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Post by Zaz on Sept 4, 2018 9:24:16 GMT -7
This is all . If the guy could lead a team and win he would be playing end of story. No one is going to have a back up on their team hurting their brand with all that junk. Sports today is the same as it was way back. Player X can do what he wants if he's a stud why player B is out looking for a job if he's not. Jimmy Jonson was asked about a player once I can't remember the payer but it was in the lines of what will he do if said player keeps drinking. He said if he's getting the job done nothing. If not he will cut him the next day. He took the 49ers to 2 straight superbowls. And this idea that hes the worst QB ever is easily refuted. Whos better: Kap or Bills starting QB Nathan "I threw 5 INTs in 1 game last year" Peterman? Obviously Kap. Do you really have to wonder why Kap keeps winning these court mediations? All he has to do his hold up his career stats compared to current NFL QBs and hes better than alot of them. And hes going to continue winning these court cases because the NFL has no ammo to argue back.
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Post by beaverhuntr on Sept 4, 2018 10:50:02 GMT -7
I love reading all the " I'm burning my Nike stuff" tweets...LOL gotta love those folks..
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Post by JAB on Sept 4, 2018 11:16:07 GMT -7
This is all . If the guy could lead a team and win he would be playing end of story. No one is going to have a back up on their team hurting their brand with all that junk. Sports today is the same as it was way back. Player X can do what he wants if he's a stud why player B is out looking for a job if he's not. Jimmy Jonson was asked about a player once I can't remember the payer but it was in the lines of what will he do if said player keeps drinking. He said if he's getting the job done nothing. If not he will cut him the next day. He took the 49ers to 2 straight superbowls. And this idea that hes the worst QB ever is easily refuted. Whos better: Kap or Bills starting QB Nathan "I threw 5 INTs in 1 game last year" Peterman? Obviously Kap. Do you really have to wonder why Kap keeps winning these court mediations? All he has to do his hold up his career stats compared to current NFL QBs and hes better than alot of them. And hes going to continue winning these court cases because the NFL has no ammo to argue back. Are you sure about the bold part? All the time and money I hope you didn't get it wrong.
I never said he was the worst ever. He might be a backup or a third QB at best that maybe someday gets his mojo back. Most don't see it. He's also a system QB that can't carry a team on his back and not the player he was. I'm saying no one is going to take that shot on a player that's all trouble and IMO a jack wagon. Kurt got the boot from the Rams after going to two supper-bowls winning one. Kurt shut his mouth worked hard and got another shot Cap is a punk that has lost a lot of what he had. No one wants a guy like that nor should they. The court case to this point means nothing. IMO it should be looked at and he can have his day in court. You're the great GM I bet you would have him starting opening day.
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Post by Zaz on Sept 4, 2018 12:25:27 GMT -7
He took the 49ers to 2 straight superbowls. And this idea that hes the worst QB ever is easily refuted. Whos better: Kap or Bills starting QB Nathan "I threw 5 INTs in 1 game last year" Peterman? Obviously Kap. Do you really have to wonder why Kap keeps winning these court mediations? All he has to do his hold up his career stats compared to current NFL QBs and hes better than alot of them. And hes going to continue winning these court cases because the NFL has no ammo to argue back. He's also a system QB that can't carry a team on his back and not the player he was. I'm saying no one is going to take that shot on a player that's all trouble and IMO a jack wagon. Kurt got the boot from the Rams after going to two supper-bowls winning one. Kurt shut his mouth worked hard and got another shot Cap is a punk that has lost a lot of what he had. No one wants a guy like that nor should they. The court case to this point means nothing. IMO it should be looked at and he can have his day in court. You're the great GM I bet you would have him starting opening day.
Yes he is a system QB. Most players in every sport are "system players" to some degree. Kurt Warner flamed out in NY. Why? Because hes a system QB. Fitz is now a system WR. With age he couldnt hang on the outside anymore, so he was moved inside. Thats system. Thats the stupidest criticism. Cards fans would love a system QB who takes them to the superbowl. In Harbaughs system, Kap is one of the most dangerous QBs in the NFL. It doesnt matter if you dont like it. Check the stats son
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Post by JAB on Sept 4, 2018 12:27:39 GMT -7
He's also a system QB that can't carry a team on his back and not the player he was. I'm saying no one is going to take that shot on a player that's all trouble and IMO a jack wagon. Kurt got the boot from the Rams after going to two supper-bowls winning one. Kurt shut his mouth worked hard and got another shot Cap is a punk that has lost a lot of what he had. No one wants a guy like that nor should they. The court case to this point means nothing. IMO it should be looked at and he can have his day in court. You're the great GM I bet you would have him starting opening day.
Yes he is a system QB. Most players in every sport are "system players" to some degree. Kurt Warner flamed out in NY. Why? Because hes a system QB. Fitz is now a system WR. With age he couldnt hang on the outside anymore, so he was moved inside. Thats system. Thats the stupidest criticism. Cards fans would love a system QB who takes them to the superbowl.
Kurt was dumped by NY because he was still at that time holding the ball to long and turning it over. Oh and they had a guy you know the first overall pick named Eli Manning waiting to go. Oh and Cap like Kurt at that time was not able to run his system or play the way he was able to in the past. But that's a nice cherry pick dodge I will stop wasting my time.
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Post by beaverhuntr on Sept 4, 2018 14:08:14 GMT -7
Sure Kapernick isnt a starter but he's definitely better than a lot of No. 2 qb's on current rosters..You gonna tell me Drew Stanton is better than Kapernick? Stop it with the " he sucks " stuff... Mike Glennon sucks too and he's still on a NFL Roster. Kapernick bit the hand that feeds him, that and he's suing the NFL so no team is going to want to hire him now..All this "he sucks" talk .. Man Glennon sucks so bad every Cardinal fan wanted to see him traded so Kanoff can take his spot.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 17:35:55 GMT -7
This is all . If the guy could lead a team and win he would be playing end of story. No one is going to have a back up on their team hurting their brand with all that junk. Sports today is the same as it was way back. Player X can do what he wants if he's a stud why player B is out looking for a job if he's not. Jimmy Jonson was asked about a player once I can't remember the payer but it was in the lines of what will he do if said player keeps drinking. He said if he's getting the job done nothing. If not he will cut him the next day. Your story conclusion misses an avoidable fact that discredits it. Look at Kap's record compared to all the QB's who were selected over him, even including one who was brought out of retirement. If Kap' wasn't good enough as you assert.....what does it say about those taken who didn't perform as well as he has? It's about his politics, not his play. That's the real end of story I'm afraid.
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Post by JAB on Sept 4, 2018 20:44:49 GMT -7
This is all . If the guy could lead a team and win he would be playing end of story. No one is going to have a back up on their team hurting their brand with all that junk. Sports today is the same as it was way back. Player X can do what he wants if he's a stud why player B is out looking for a job if he's not. Jimmy Jonson was asked about a player once I can't remember the payer but it was in the lines of what will he do if said player keeps drinking. He said if he's getting the job done nothing. If not he will cut him the next day. Your story conclusion misses an avoidable fact that discredits it. Look at Kap's record compared to all the QB's who were selected over him, even including one who was brought out of retirement. If Kap' wasn't good enough as you assert.....what does it say about those taken who didn't perform as well as he has? It's about his politics, not his play. That's the real end of story I'm afraid.For you I bet it is.
58 starts 28 wins 30 losses. 12 of his wins came in one season. That's 16 wins and 26 losses out of that one year. He got hurt and went full moron to kill any second chance. No team wants that in a 2nd or 3rd QB. What a sheet show what team would want to deal with that?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 10:26:36 GMT -7
Your story conclusion misses an avoidable fact that discredits it. Look at Kap's record compared to all the QB's who were selected over him, even including one who was brought out of retirement. If Kap' wasn't good enough as you assert.....what does it say about those taken who didn't perform as well as he has? It's about his politics, not his play. That's the real end of story I'm afraid.For you I bet it is.
58 starts 28 wins 30 losses. 12 of his wins came in one season. That's 16 wins and 26 losses out of that one year. He got hurt and went full moron to kill any second chance. No team wants that in a 2nd or 3rd QB. What a sheet show what team would want to deal with that?
Man you CK haters crack me up trying to downplay this guys success as a QB in this league in an effort to try and argue what's happen to this guy isn't what it is. Your argument that he's not even qualified to be a back up would do him a huge favor in court. But for the sake of discussion let's go with your performance based argument......28-30 won loss record. Let's also fill in the blanks you left out. Came off the bench and led his team to the SB. Broke Michael Vick's rushing record his first postseason start. A team rushing record regardless of position. Over four hundred yards in total offense with four touch downs (two rushing two passing). And his QB rating speaks for itself. So back to my original question that you seem to ignore: how does he compare to the other QB's taken ahead of him in 2017 as long as we are arguing performance credibility. Or perhaps you might wanna try and move the goal post and use the "he doesn't fit the system argument". In case you do.....then okay, why did Blaine Gabbert who lost the job back to CK deserve a shot with us instead of CK, because he fit the system at the time? How about Glennon, how does his stats compare to CK, or how does he fit in the systemic argument? Or maybe you might wanna consider the "in the locker room" argument? What did his last coach have to say about that? Maybe you don't wanna deal with any of these contradictions so in case that's the case.......I'll just post a stat source that does. www.complex.com/sports/2017/08/kaepernick-is-better-than-most-quarterbacks/
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