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Post by CardCore on Dec 5, 2024 13:47:32 GMT -7
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Post by flash on Dec 5, 2024 18:56:10 GMT -7
The problem with Jones is I thought he had too many penalties called on him...yes most were on him...but quite a few were questionable...what I like about him is that he is stayed with the WR and was usually close enough to make a play on the WR...
I still am not wanting Bunting in there...just because he forced 2 fumbles in the last game...is not good enough for me to believe in him...where has he been the whole season doing things like that? Bring in Jones and let's see what he can do in a real game not practice or pre season...
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Post by End Zone on Dec 6, 2024 5:23:39 GMT -7
I am looking forward to Jones being activated soon. If he's practicing, he's recovered. Here is what I discovered about a severe heel injury:
A heel bone injury, also known as a calcaneus fracture, can take several months to recover from, with timelines ranging from 3-4 months for minor injuries to 12-24 months for severe cases, depending on the severity of the fracture and whether surgery is required; most people will need to avoid putting full weight on their foot for 6-12 weeks during the initial healing phase, followed by physical therapy to regain full function. Source: Bing AI.
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Post by Dry Heat on Dec 6, 2024 11:05:23 GMT -7
We have a young secondary playing well together. Hopefully Jones adds to an up and coming group.
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Post by CardCore on Dec 6, 2024 11:20:05 GMT -7
We have a young secondary playing well together. Hopefully Jones adds to an up and coming group. It sounds like the plan is to incorporate him in a similar fashion to D Rob. I hope both those guys are at 100% against the 9ers and Rams. It could make the difference. Not only could it make a difference but it would speak to me as to the talent assessment prior to the draft that MO has brought to the table. I get that a 3rd rounder is under 100, but to have 4 of those picks looking like they can contribute to success is a breath of fresh air.
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Post by MT Diesel on Dec 6, 2024 14:33:48 GMT -7
The problem with Jones is I thought he had too many penalties called on him...yes most were on him...but quite a few were questionable...what I like about him is that he is stayed with the WR and was usually close enough to make a play on the WR...
I still am not wanting Bunting in there...just because he forced 2 fumbles in the last game...is not good enough for me to believe in him...where has he been the whole season doing things like that? Bring in Jones and let's see what he can do in a real game not practice or pre season...
An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert? Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them. At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB. Jones and Melton are good college CBs with different skillsets and can help being different with different WRs faced each week…SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himself…he will settle in…another non-published factor is undisclosed injuries that cause poor play…it is hard to be definitive without all the information. As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware.
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Post by flash on Dec 6, 2024 18:41:21 GMT -7
The problem with Jones is I thought he had too many penalties called on him...yes most were on him...but quite a few were questionable...what I like about him is that he is stayed with the WR and was usually close enough to make a play on the WR...
I still am not wanting Bunting in there...just because he forced 2 fumbles in the last game...is not good enough for me to believe in him...where has he been the whole season doing things like that? Bring in Jones and let's see what he can do in a real game not practice or pre season...
An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert? Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them. At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB. Jones and Melton are good college CBs with different skillsets and can help being different with different WRs faced each week…SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himself…he will settle in…another non-published factor is undisclosed injuries that cause poor play…it is hard to be definitive without all the information. As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware. Diesel.... Here is my comeback to your post.... An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team.Let me start off with Garrett Williams. Do you think that he is playing at a pretty high level? According to PFF stats he is. Garrett has played a total of 15 games(that is less than a regular season of games). He plays above where we selected him. Do you think that Bunting has played better than Garrett? Though Bunting has only started 10 games, he is experienced and he was not coming off an injury like Garrett having to wait mid season of his Rookie year to start. Garrett has contributed quickly. I will only think that Garrett will be better next season and become one of our best CB's. Bunting has not played even close to being considered a good CB...he has played less than Mediocre...so to answer your question above...a Rookie can play very well in a span of 17 games...of course he will become better the following year...and with more experience. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert?
The way Bunting has played this season, I would rather see those reps go to Melton. Continuing to let Bunting start is only delaying the time for Melton to complete his learning curve. If Melton is given the opportunity to start in place of Bunting...then I think that the coaching staff will keep Melton as the starter unless we draft a CB in the 1rst round next year...so my answer to your question is this...I think Bunting will not be here next season. And that won't be because I think that, but because the coaches will start Melton over him. Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…
I just showed with Garrett Williams in the reply before that players can contribute quickly and do what is asked of them. just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them.
It is a 50/50 chance that a first round draft pick will turn to play at the round they were picked. It happens all the time...we have seen the worst of that scenario in... Zaven Collins Isaah Simmons Josh Rosen Robert Nkemdiche Beanie Wells Matt Leinart Bryant Johnson Wendall Bryant and others.... Here are just some of the CB's that we drafted in the first round...and turned out good for us... Patrick Peterson Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Antrel Rolle If you don't draft high for a good player, you will never get that player...every team has to take that 50/50 chance and sometimes lose out on the pick...for example...Jeff Okudah...top overall #3 pick...but that happens... At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB.Then we should roll with Ojulari, Browning, Collins and Robinson for Pass Rusher/Dline...correct? So if we are not drafting Pass Rusher/Dline or CB in the first round, what position? SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himselfI totally disagree with that...I seriously doubt too many on this forum would agree with that... As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware.I agree with they are better...however...they are not a top 5 CB Corp in the NFL...and just maybe that one 1rst round draft CB will get us there or like you say...not...
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Post by belac44 on Dec 6, 2024 19:15:41 GMT -7
An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert? Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them. At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB. Jones and Melton are good college CBs with different skillsets and can help being different with different WRs faced each week…SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himself…he will settle in…another non-published factor is undisclosed injuries that cause poor play…it is hard to be definitive without all the information. As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware. Diesel.... Here is my comeback to your post.... An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team.Let me start off with Garrett Williams. Do you think that he is playing at a pretty high level? According to PFF stats he is. Garrett has played a total of 15 games(that is less than a regular season of games). He plays above where we selected him. Do you think that Bunting has played better than Garrett? Though Bunting has only started 10 games, he is experienced and he was not coming off an injury like Garrett having to wait mid season of his Rookie year to start. Garrett has contributed quickly. I will only think that Garrett will be better next season and become one of our best CB's. Bunting has not played even close to being considered a good CB...he has played less than Mediocre...so to answer your question above...a Rookie can play very well in a span of 17 games...of course he will become better the following year...and with more experience. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert?
The way Bunting has played this season, I would rather see those reps go to Melton. Continuing to let Bunting start is only delaying the time for Melton to complete his learning curve. If Melton is given the opportunity to start in place of Bunting...then I think that the coaching staff will keep Melton as the starter unless we draft a CB in the 1rst round next year...so my answer to your question is this...I think Bunting will not be here next season. And that won't be because I think that, but because the coaches will start Melton over him. Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…
I just showed with Garrett Williams in the reply before that players can contribute quickly and do what is asked of them. just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them.
It is a 50/50 chance that a first round draft pick will turn to play at the round they were picked. It happens all the time...we have seen the worst of that scenario in... Zaven Collins Isaah Simmons Josh Rosen Robert Nkemdiche Beanie Wells Matt Leinart Bryant Johnson Wendall Bryant and others.... Here are just some of the CB's that we drafted in the first round...and turned out good for us... Patrick Peterson Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Antrel Rolle If you don't draft high for a good player, you will never get that player...every team has to take that 50/50 chance and sometimes lose out on the pick...for example...Jeff Okudah...top overall #3 pick...but that happens... At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB.Then we should roll with Ojulari, Browning, Collins and Robinson for Pass Rusher/Dline...correct? So if we are not drafting Pass Rusher/Dline or CB in the first round, what position? SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himselfI totally disagree with that...I seriously doubt too many on this forum would agree with that... As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware.I agree with they are better...however...they are not a top 5 CB Corp in the NFL...and just maybe that one 1rst round draft CB will get us there or like you say...not...
What part of his comment on SMB do you disagree with? He said good and bad things in same sentence.
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Post by flash on Dec 6, 2024 22:35:27 GMT -7
Diesel.... Here is my comeback to your post.... An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team.Let me start off with Garrett Williams. Do you think that he is playing at a pretty high level? According to PFF stats he is. Garrett has played a total of 15 games(that is less than a regular season of games). He plays above where we selected him. Do you think that Bunting has played better than Garrett? Though Bunting has only started 10 games, he is experienced and he was not coming off an injury like Garrett having to wait mid season of his Rookie year to start. Garrett has contributed quickly. I will only think that Garrett will be better next season and become one of our best CB's. Bunting has not played even close to being considered a good CB...he has played less than Mediocre...so to answer your question above...a Rookie can play very well in a span of 17 games...of course he will become better the following year...and with more experience. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert?
The way Bunting has played this season, I would rather see those reps go to Melton. Continuing to let Bunting start is only delaying the time for Melton to complete his learning curve. If Melton is given the opportunity to start in place of Bunting...then I think that the coaching staff will keep Melton as the starter unless we draft a CB in the 1rst round next year...so my answer to your question is this...I think Bunting will not be here next season. And that won't be because I think that, but because the coaches will start Melton over him. Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…
I just showed with Garrett Williams in the reply before that players can contribute quickly and do what is asked of them. just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them.
It is a 50/50 chance that a first round draft pick will turn to play at the round they were picked. It happens all the time...we have seen the worst of that scenario in... Zaven Collins Isaah Simmons Josh Rosen Robert Nkemdiche Beanie Wells Matt Leinart Bryant Johnson Wendall Bryant and others.... Here are just some of the CB's that we drafted in the first round...and turned out good for us... Patrick Peterson Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Antrel Rolle If you don't draft high for a good player, you will never get that player...every team has to take that 50/50 chance and sometimes lose out on the pick...for example...Jeff Okudah...top overall #3 pick...but that happens... At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB.Then we should roll with Ojulari, Browning, Collins and Robinson for Pass Rusher/Dline...correct? So if we are not drafting Pass Rusher/Dline or CB in the first round, what position? SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himselfI totally disagree with that...I seriously doubt too many on this forum would agree with that... As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware.I agree with they are better...however...they are not a top 5 CB Corp in the NFL...and just maybe that one 1rst round draft CB will get us there or like you say...not...
What part of his comment on SMB do you disagree with? He said good and bad things in same sentence. Bunting has done nothing great, spectacular or even anything that should be expected of our #1 CB this whole season until the 2 forced fumbles in the last game...what else has he done all season? Not much of anything...what are the good things he said in the same sentence?
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Post by Dry Heat on Dec 7, 2024 0:58:21 GMT -7
Garrett Williams has been a stud and is playing better than all but maybe one of the CBs taken in his draft class, the one taken earliest in the first round. In 547 snaps played he has allowed a measly passer rating of 58.2. SMB, the 27 yr old vet, has allowed a passer rating of 100.8.
Melton and Staring Thomas V have been slightly better than SMB at only 22 and 24 yrs old. They are the future along with Jones, hopefully. SMB becomes yet another expensive backup unless he steps things up. The two forced fumbles last week were some of the first good we’ve seen from him.
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Post by devongent on Dec 7, 2024 3:00:41 GMT -7
Diesel and flash; a fascinating discussion here and there is lots of merit in what you both say. It's great to have well articulated differing view points for the forum membership (and any other readers) to consider. - I do feel that one more young, excellent Defensive Back would set up the Secondary for years to come, but its true you also have to balance this desire against other needs and the construction of the overall roster. We chew on these issues, the FO is tasked with making the decisions. Lets look at Garrett Wilson first of all. The excellent Draft Network piece, below, highlights what a great signing he was and (some would say) we have our CB1 on the team already. On the evidence of his performances it's hard to argue against this and the key question appears to be whether he is retained in the slot role, or moved out to the perimeter. This decision will determine our requirements. thedraftnetwork.com/2024/11/27/garrett-williams-arizona-cardinalsAnd the ACL injury, which in reality is the reason he was a pick-up in the 3rd Round (#72). www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=garrett+williams+arizona+draft+review&mid=E7B74F121CBECC2DFEF2E7B74F121CBECC2DFEF2&FORM=VIREWe have three basic scenario options here - 1) Move Garrett out to the perimeter in 2025 and with Max Melton we have our principle CB pairing. Should this be the case, a slot CB/ multifunctional DB would then be on the agenda. - I like Jahdae Barron, Texas Longhorns, who I feel would be a great fit for this role. He would need to be a Day 2 signing (probably Round 2). 2) Keep Garrett in his current role ('it's not broken, so don't fix it'). If so, this opens up the possibility of drafting a new CB1, who is a specialist perimeter guy and who has more height. One such player, who has fantastic potential, is also in recovery from an ACL injury. Shavon Revel Jr. Some pundits consider him the best Cornerback in the whole draft and, without the injury, a top ten talent. How far does he drop will surely be influenced by his medical report, but might the Cardinals be tempted to strike twice, betting on the same formula as with Wilson. I think it highly unlikely that Revel goes early, hence he will almost certainly be a Cardinal option in Round 1 (whichever spot we are picking) and there is a fair to decent chance that he will slide into Day 2. - At what level might us (or another team) draft him? www.the33rdteam.com/shavon-revel-jr-2025-nfl-draft-scouting-report/www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=shavon+revel+jr&mid=DED7BBC6EA0236DE2A1DDED7BBC6EA0236DE2A1D&FORM=VIRE3) This brings us full circle to Elijah Jones, he was drafted in the third round and the FO must like him. - Maybe they stick with what we have for another season, or draft another (say) in the third round, where some good options will present. - Whatever, Bunting's contract would suggest he will be back in Arizona in 2025.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Dec 7, 2024 4:56:23 GMT -7
WF just updated their 2025 Prospect Listing for the Corner and Safety positions -- BTW - I agree that CB Revel could be a Monti target in 2nd round and he is a quality CB but due to ACL he probably won't run at either the Combine or Pro Day. So instead of a late first round - early 2nd rounder he very well could fall into the Cardinals pick for 2nd round. it should be noted that in the WF list of CB's there a quite a few taller outside corners ranking in the top 10. Ranking of 2025 Corners by WF - just updated today
As far as the safety list and because of the devaluation of the position, some talented ones are projected even in the 3rd - 5th round who could contribute. I know the33rdteam.com has 5 safeties in their top 60 Big Board and they note Bud Clark of TCU is a rising prospect and at 6'2" is a rangy safety -- here is what they say about Clark - "This season has brought the best out of the 6-foot-2, 185-pounder. Rangy and instinctive, Clark's looming presence has expanded to become a force in the box. He's set career-bests in coverage, tackle efficiency, and passer rating against as he's logged his most snaps between the box and true free safety role instead of the slot." Here is WF's latest Safety Ranking and this posiition could be a Monti target if he gets an "extra" 3rd rounder in a trade down or 4th round selection IMO - 2025 Safety Rankings updated by WF today
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Post by belac44 on Dec 7, 2024 4:58:48 GMT -7
What part of his comment on SMB do you disagree with? He said good and bad things in same sentence. Bunting has done nothing great, spectacular or even anything that should be expected of our #1 CB this whole season until the 2 forced fumbles in the last game...what else has he done all season? Not much of anything...what are the good things he said in the same sentence? That is why I asked for clarity. I agree, he has been bad. He did have a higher rating last game, but one decent game or a few decent moments does not mean he has redeemed himself at all. Maybe he can finish the season stronger, but I would rather Melton get the experience. At least I can forgive him for some failures and growing pains.
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Post by MT Diesel on Dec 7, 2024 7:30:29 GMT -7
Diesel.... Here is my comeback to your post.... An honest question…How long does it take for a rookie or a FA to play well for a team? Both cases there is a learning curve on the 2nd year. There are exceptions like Puka as a rookie…for the most part it takes time for players to fit a role on a new team.Let me start off with Garrett Williams. Do you think that he is playing at a pretty high level? According to PFF stats he is. Garrett has played a total of 15 games(that is less than a regular season of games). He plays above where we selected him. Do you think that Bunting has played better than Garrett? Though Bunting has only started 10 games, he is experienced and he was not coming off an injury like Garrett having to wait mid season of his Rookie year to start. Garrett has contributed quickly. I will only think that Garrett will be better next season and become one of our best CB's. Bunting has not played even close to being considered a good CB...he has played less than Mediocre...so to answer your question above...a Rookie can play very well in a span of 17 games...of course he will become better the following year...and with more experience. SMB was a solid player as a Buc and up and down for the short time with the Titans. He has some versatility and a smart player who has struggled as a Card…does that mean he has no future in the desert?
The way Bunting has played this season, I would rather see those reps go to Melton. Continuing to let Bunting start is only delaying the time for Melton to complete his learning curve. If Melton is given the opportunity to start in place of Bunting...then I think that the coaching staff will keep Melton as the starter unless we draft a CB in the 1rst round next year...so my answer to your question is this...I think Bunting will not be here next season. And that won't be because I think that, but because the coaches will start Melton over him. Even if a top corner was drafted early in the 2025 draft…how long would it be to see consistent performance? At some point players need live in game snaps with a team to get good at what is asked of them…
I just showed with Garrett Williams in the reply before that players can contribute quickly and do what is asked of them. just replacing players in hopes you land one who is great from the get go isn’t realistic or think since they were a top 1st round rookie they will always perform well…players fail…even one’s like Collier can be a 1st round pick and not fit well on the team that drafts them.
It is a 50/50 chance that a first round draft pick will turn to play at the round they were picked. It happens all the time...we have seen the worst of that scenario in... Zaven Collins Isaah Simmons Josh Rosen Robert Nkemdiche Beanie Wells Matt Leinart Bryant Johnson Wendall Bryant and others.... Here are just some of the CB's that we drafted in the first round...and turned out good for us... Patrick Peterson Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Antrel Rolle If you don't draft high for a good player, you will never get that player...every team has to take that 50/50 chance and sometimes lose out on the pick...for example...Jeff Okudah...top overall #3 pick...but that happens... At some point you have to roll with who you have with a balanced view of upgrading when it makes sense and keep up on all positions without focusing on any one position unless you have a non-redeemable QB.Then we should roll with Ojulari, Browning, Collins and Robinson for Pass Rusher/Dline...correct? So if we are not drafting Pass Rusher/Dline or CB in the first round, what position? SMB had a horrible year and has done some good to redeem himselfI totally disagree with that...I seriously doubt too many on this forum would agree with that... As with the front seven the Card DB room is better than many are aware.I agree with they are better...however...they are not a top 5 CB Corp in the NFL...and just maybe that one 1rst round draft CB will get us there or like you say...not...
What part of his comment on SMB do you disagree with? He said good and bad things in same sentence. Thanks Flash As you confirmed with G Williams it takes about a year for even high level rookie CBs to learn the ins and outs of the NFL and get consistent play from them…some take longer. P21 or 5th round Richard Sherman were better? It has merit the 5th rounder won a SB and was a shutdown CB for 2 teams…was it because he was on better defenses…maybe…You may be firm saying P21 was better…it is one example that shows draft position isn’t the end all be all choice. The other 1st rounders you mentioned had short careers with AZ…with their draft status they demanded top pay and were hard to justify what they wanted after their rookie contracts…so that is another knock against top picked CBs With G Williams he was a 3rd round…not what I would consider a 1st round or top draft pick…thanks for backing up my point a top drafted CB is not needed. Is SMB dealing with undisclosed injury in 2024? This wasn’t addressed. I do not have the answer maybe you have insight on this. I agree SMB has been a huge disappointment so far…my question is…can he play better in the near future and some of the recent flashes of strong run defense is a plus…is he actually better as a nickel as his career has shown? Can G Williams be a better outside CB…he has nickel down well. Has Melton shown the ability that the NFL is not above his abilities? Can E Jones finish 2024 strong and be better in 2025 than a top rookie? Can S Thomas keep trending up and be that outside CB the Cards need? To me there is a very young CB room trying to work as a unit..bringing in more new players to the CB might take even longer to mess as a unit. Maybe the DL as I have been consistent with in voicing the need to have better depth at the 3-5 tech and run with the edge or OLBs on the team currently. My personal hope in the 2025 draft is IOL(G) and a DL player similar to DRob and then do what ever else makes sense. Keep building depth at the OL and DL first. A better DL will help the OLBs edge rushing get more one on ones and improve the DB room since the QB will be under more duress as well as stop the run better on early downs and put defense in better plus yardage downs that creates more duress on QBs. Complementary FB starts in the trenches…a top pick CB doesn’t help get Cards defense in positive plus yardage money downs like a better DL would IMO. Flash your point on a top CB has merit…just isn’t as needed as a better OL or DL. The DB room is getting better and the youth on the team will continue to get better the more they play together…there is quite a bit of depth in the CB room…not as much on the DL
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Post by flash on Dec 7, 2024 8:18:10 GMT -7
Bunting has done nothing great, spectacular or even anything that should be expected of our #1 CB this whole season until the 2 forced fumbles in the last game...what else has he done all season? Not much of anything...what are the good things he said in the same sentence? That is why I asked for clarity. I agree, he has been bad. He did have a higher rating last game, but one decent game or a few decent moments does not mean he has redeemed himself at all. Maybe he can finish the season stronger, but I would rather Melton get the experience. At least I can forgive him for some failures and growing pains. This is my reason why I would rather have Bunting take less reps. Let me put it this way...ok....the playoffs this year may happen or not...Bunting may contribute enough to get us into the playoffs...but our CB group is still not good enough to get past the first round of the playoffs should we make it. I just don't see it...why not give Melton the Reps and prepare him for next years playoffs...should we keep Bunting and continue to let him be our #1 CB, what if he is the #1 CB next season again? He is not a good enough CB to be our #1 CB in a playoff run. Is Melton good enough to do that? We don't know...and we won't until Melton gets more reps...
If we are not going to draft a CB with our 1rst pick in the Draft next season...then I want Melton to get as many reps as possible...
I guess the bottom line is that I do not see Bunting as the best choice to continue to be our #1 CB on the Depth Chart...especially if we become a playoff contender next season...I don't see us getting a CB next season that is a game changer...but by improving the player labeled our #1 CB...we should at least have a better CB Corp that can be competitive in the playoffs next season...
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