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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2024 12:46:40 GMT -7
So there is an article on espn plus that talks about who is projected to be what. Cardinals are expected to give up the most points this year with a bad defense ------------------- Projected defenses to allow the most points 1. Arizona Cardinals, 443 points The Cardinals have allowed the most points per game over the past two seasons (26.6) and did little during the offseason to suggest things will go much better in the short term. Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson form a quality safety duo, but there are minimal impact players in the front seven and at cornerback. Arizona was smart to address defense during April's draft (DT Darius Robinson, CB Max Melton and CB Elijah Jones were selected in the first three rounds), but they'll all require some development. 2. Denver Broncos, 423 points 3. New York Giants, 421 points --------------------- And here is the latest ranking: 29. Arizona Cardinals Arizona has a potentially dangerous connection between Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr., but holes along the offensive line, as well as the aforementioned weak defense, are reasons for major concern Link to the ESPN Plus article... www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/41001635/2024-nfl-season-predictions-power-rankings-super-bowl-pick
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Post by CardCore on Sept 1, 2024 13:28:13 GMT -7
So there is an article on espn plus that talks about who is projected to be what. Cardinals are expected to give up the most points this year with a bad defense ------------------- Projected defenses to allow the most points 1. Arizona Cardinals, 443 points The Cardinals have allowed the most points per game over the past two seasons (26.6) and did little during the offseason to suggest things will go much better in the short term. Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson form a quality safety duo, but there are minimal impact players in the front seven and at cornerback. Arizona was smart to address defense during April's draft (DT Darius Robinson, CB Max Melton and CB Elijah Jones were selected in the first three rounds), but they'll all require some development. 2. Denver Broncos, 423 points 3. New York Giants, 421 points --------------------- And here is the latest ranking: 29. Arizona Cardinals Arizona has a potentially dangerous connection between Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr., but holes along the offensive line, as well as the aforementioned weak defense, are reasons for major concern Link to the ESPN Plus article... www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/41001635/2024-nfl-season-predictions-power-rankings-super-bowl-pick “AND DID LITTLE DURING THE OFFSEASON TO SUGGEST THINGS WILL GO MUCH BETTER”… Mike Clay? Does your head…..hurt? Or does it just stay numb? Most folks aren’t just lapping up your SLOP, because you happen to work for ESPN. (In my book you garner ZERO points due to your employer. Get a life CLOWN!
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 1, 2024 14:35:55 GMT -7
So there is an article on espn plus that talks about who is projected to be what. Cardinals are expected to give up the most points this year with a bad defense ------------------- Projected defenses to allow the most points 1. Arizona Cardinals, 443 points The Cardinals have allowed the most points per game over the past two seasons (26.6) and did little during the offseason to suggest things will go much better in the short term. Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson form a quality safety duo, but there are minimal impact players in the front seven and at cornerback. Arizona was smart to address defense during April's draft (DT Darius Robinson, CB Max Melton and CB Elijah Jones were selected in the first three rounds), but they'll all require some development. 2. Denver Broncos, 423 points 3. New York Giants, 421 points --------------------- And here is the latest ranking: 29. Arizona Cardinals Arizona has a potentially dangerous connection between Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr., but holes along the offensive line, as well as the aforementioned weak defense, are reasons for major concern Link to the ESPN Plus article... www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/41001635/2024-nfl-season-predictions-power-rankings-super-bowl-pick “AND DID LITTLE DURING THE OFFSEASON TO SUGGEST THINGS WILL GO MUCH BETTER”… Mike Clay? Does your head…..hurt? Or does it just stay numb? Most folks aren’t just lapping up your SLOP, because you happen to work for ESPN. (In my book you garner ZERO points due to your employer. Get a life CLOWN! Lazy work. We didn’t make any big splash defensive free agent signings, which is all national sports writers ever seem to pay attention to. But the Devil is in the details: Interior Dline: this group was bottom of the barrel last year, and injured as well. We had several guys starting games who didn’t make this year’s roster. We signed three DL, two of whom will be new starters and upgrades, and we spent a first round pick on another. OLB: this group takes a hit with the injury to BJO, but we did draft a potential steal in X. ILB: Our main starter is healthy and we added another starter upgrade beside him CB: We have a healthy rookie we drafted last year who could have been a 1st rounder had he not been injured in Garrett Williams, we drafted Melton in the early 2nd, and we grabbed a new starter in FA. S: as mentioned already strong and we added a new Budda type safety in the draft. The defense is better at starter. It’s not deep though, and it’s young. Lots of work to do but I see six new starters that are upgrades out of 11.
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Post by flash on Sept 1, 2024 15:06:34 GMT -7
Let's analyze our Defensive Stats from 2023 and see where we ranked...
Passing Defense...
Passing Attempts: 506(Ranked 2nd) Passing Completions: 347(Ranked 9th) Passing Completion Percentage: 67.6(Ranked 31rst) Passing Average Yards Per Completion(Ranked 24th) Passing Yards: 3846(Ranked 12th) Passing Touchdowns:32(Ranked 30th) Passing Interceptions: 11(Ranked 21rst) Passing Sacks: 33(30th)
Rushing Defense:
Rushing Attempts: 521(Ranked 32nd...the most attempts in the league) Rushing Yards: 2434(Ranked 32nd) Rushing Average Yards Per Carry: 4.7(Ranked 29th) Rushing Touchdowns: 19(Ranked 27th) Rushing Fumbles: 4(Ranked 8th...by the way...8 teams had 4 rushing fumbles)
So, as you can see from the stats above...we were not the worst except for two categories...
Then why did we have the most points against us? TURNOVERS!!! Is it possible with a fumble or interception, our opponent was already in field goal range? Or very close to Touchdown range?
Here are our Turnovers last season while Dobbs, Tune and Murray played...
Team while Dobbs was QB Interceptions:5 Fumbles:4
Team for one game that Tune played against the Browns Interceptions:2 Fumbles:1
Team while Murray was QB Interceptions 5 Fumbles: 1
If you add up the Turnovers between Dobbs and Tune: Interceptions: 7 Fumbles: 5
As you can see, we had less turnovers with Murray...
Could that be one of the reasons we had so many points scored against us? Perhaps we gave our opponents excellent field advantage...
Just food for thought...I think our defense is better than last season...
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 1, 2024 15:27:09 GMT -7
Let's analyze our Defensive Stats from 2023 and see where we ranked... Passing Defense... Passing Attempts: 506(Ranked 2nd) Passing Completions: 347(Ranked 9th) Passing Completion Percentage: 67.6(Ranked 31rst) Passing Average Yards Per Completion(Ranked 24th) Passing Yards: 3846(Ranked 12th) Passing Touchdowns:32(Ranked 30th) Passing Interceptions: 11(Ranked 21rst) Passing Sacks: 33(30th) Rushing Defense: Rushing Attempts: 521(Ranked 32nd...the most attempts in the league) Rushing Yards: 2434(Ranked 32nd) Rushing Average Yards Per Carry: 4.7(Ranked 29th) Rushing Touchdowns: 19(Ranked 27th) Rushing Fumbles: 4(Ranked 8th...by the way...8 teams had 4 rushing fumbles) So, as you can see from the stats above...we were not the worst except for two categories... Then why did we have the most points against us? TURNOVERS!!! Is it possible with a fumble or interception, our opponent was already in field goal range? Or very close to Touchdown range? Here are our Turnovers last season while Dobbs, Tune and Murray played... Team while Dobbs was QB Interceptions:5 Fumbles:4 Team for one game that Tune played against the Browns Interceptions:2 Fumbles:1 Team while Murray was QB Interceptions 5 Fumbles: 1 If you add up the Turnovers between Dobbs and Tune: Interceptions: 7 Fumbles: 5 As you can see, we had less turnovers with Murray... Could that be one of the reasons we had so many points scored against us? Perhaps we gave our opponents excellent field advantage... Just food for thought...I think our defense is better than last season... It wasn’t turnovers, it was an awful Dline, awful OLB, and awful CB play. Those rankings show we could not stop the run or pass and couldn’t get to the opposing QB. The Dline and Oline need to work together to force the QB into making bad decisions and throw the ball early without going through progressions. They also need to contain the run. The CB coverage needs to give the pass rushers time to get to the QB. Each small upgrade in position group improves the other groups. We didn’t do anything huge to address a single position, but if we upgraded 6 of 11 defensive starters and 4 of 5 position groups like I feel we did, the total improvement could be pretty decent.
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 1, 2024 15:42:06 GMT -7
So there is an article on espn plus that talks about who is projected to be what. Cardinals are expected to give up the most points this year with a bad defense ------------------- Projected defenses to allow the most points 1. Arizona Cardinals, 443 points The Cardinals have allowed the most points per game over the past two seasons (26.6) and did little during the offseason to suggest things will go much better in the short term. Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson form a quality safety duo, but there are minimal impact players in the front seven and at cornerback. Arizona was smart to address defense during April's draft (DT Darius Robinson, CB Max Melton and CB Elijah Jones were selected in the first three rounds), but they'll all require some development. 2. Denver Broncos, 423 points 3. New York Giants, 421 points --------------------- And here is the latest ranking: 29. Arizona Cardinals Arizona has a potentially dangerous connection between Kyler Murray and Marvin Harrison Jr., but holes along the offensive line, as well as the aforementioned weak defense, are reasons for major concern Link to the ESPN Plus article... www.espn.com/nfl/insider/story/_/id/41001635/2024-nfl-season-predictions-power-rankings-super-bowl-pick “AND DID LITTLE DURING THE OFFSEASON TO SUGGEST THINGS WILL GO MUCH BETTER”… Mike Clay? Does your head…..hurt? Or does it just stay numb? Most folks aren’t just lapping up your SLOP, because you happen to work for ESPN. (In my book you garner ZERO points due to your employer. Get a life CLOWN! Too many bad articles...they continue to be published. As a Card fan, I do like the poor articles and how poor they expect the Cards to be. In many ways it is better to be the underdog. One interesting stat an ESPN analyst brought up was the Cards in 2023 faced the highest amount of starting QBs than any other team. 93% of the snaps against starting QBs...with all the injuries to QBs the 2023 Cards faced the starters for all but about 1/2 of a game. Starting the season with Simmons and Marco Wilson...then the injury bug on a defense that had little depth of quality and playing or having PS quality starters at more than one position made 2023 rough for the defense. Even if the FA signings and defensive draft picks did not impress many outsiders...Monti did a solid job raising the floor as per starters and depth. At the end of the day with the improvements on offense and a healthy K1 the defense with a 20% improvement in 2024 over 2023 should be a rather achievable accomplishment. They are also projected to face fewer starting QBs in 2024. With the last couple years of the 26 points per game surrendered a 20% improvement is in the 22 points per game area and with the current offense a moderate improvement on defense as well as improved turnover rate will be the key to keep the Cards competitive. The cleansing the roster of the garbage players, facing fewer starting QBs, improved offense, raising the floor of the defense, improving of the quality of the depth, and an increase in turnovers by the defense are the areas that will impact the actual ranking of the defense in 2024.
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 1, 2024 20:47:54 GMT -7
A comment about the Card defense in 2024: I was a bit tempted to start its own thread and with this one on the board this is a good place for my comment.
Leverage.
I love the game of football and leverage on many levels is the key. The leverage I want to highlight is on defensive coverage.
One of the best college defenses I have witnessed is that of NDSU although a FCS team they are a lion killer when playing FBS teams. Last week they lost to Colorado...the Buffalos beat the Bison. The Bison are great at outside leverage with the outside CBs and keep a safety high to avoid or limit the big play. Every opponent earns every yard, but it starts with leverage.
The outside CBs always force the outside WR to the inside where they have help and do not allow the CB to be beaten on the outside. The CB often lines up on the outside shoulder of the WR and the inside shoulder is upfield...they show what they are doing and challenge the offense to break their structure.
Most defenses attempt to funnel offenses to the middle but get that structure beat by better offenses. Also, a need to understand the front of a play, the backside, and how to use proper leverage in funneling plays to help in the defense.
Many may have watched enough college ball to understand how bad USC's defense has been recently. No surprise, they hired NDSU's HC to be their LBs coach and his defensive understanding is being seen by the performance of the USC defense to start the year. They held LSU to 20 points and secured a victory, over a tough SEC team. It wasn't the quality of the athletes as much as the quality, understanding, and use of proper leverage.
Rallis and JG are good at teaching proper leverage and this ability will also lead to an improved defense in 2024. The Cards are very young on defense outside the safety position. Watch how the Card CBs line up on the outside WRs...see if you can pick up on the Cards funneling of the outside WRs to the middle or are they giving up sideline routes?
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Post by thomas cat on Sept 1, 2024 21:46:22 GMT -7
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Post by End Zone on Sept 2, 2024 5:57:19 GMT -7
Thanks. That interview is already posted on YT for fan viewing. I enjoy JG's optimism, energy, intelligence, and creativity. He wants a fast, violent, and smart defense. I think he's got what he wanted. The ESPN analyst basically copied comments made the prior two years during team turmoil. His forecast for the 2024 Defense is lazy math. 26.05882352941176 points average per game across a 17-game season? That's an improvement over his last forecast, 26.60000000000000.
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Post by End Zone on Sept 2, 2024 5:59:18 GMT -7
Let's analyze our Defensive Stats from 2023 and see where we ranked... Passing Defense... Passing Attempts: 506(Ranked 2nd) Passing Completions: 347(Ranked 9th) Passing Completion Percentage: 67.6(Ranked 31rst) Passing Average Yards Per Completion(Ranked 24th) Passing Yards: 3846(Ranked 12th) Passing Touchdowns:32(Ranked 30th) Passing Interceptions: 11(Ranked 21rst) Passing Sacks: 33(30th) Rushing Defense: Rushing Attempts: 521(Ranked 32nd...the most attempts in the league) Rushing Yards: 2434(Ranked 32nd) Rushing Average Yards Per Carry: 4.7(Ranked 29th) Rushing Touchdowns: 19(Ranked 27th) Rushing Fumbles: 4(Ranked 8th...by the way...8 teams had 4 rushing fumbles) So, as you can see from the stats above...we were not the worst except for two categories... Then why did we have the most points against us? TURNOVERS!!! Is it possible with a fumble or interception, our opponent was already in field goal range? Or very close to Touchdown range? Here are our Turnovers last season while Dobbs, Tune and Murray played... Team while Dobbs was QB Interceptions:5 Fumbles:4 Team for one game that Tune played against the Browns Interceptions:2 Fumbles:1 Team while Murray was QB Interceptions 5 Fumbles: 1 If you add up the Turnovers between Dobbs and Tune: Interceptions: 7 Fumbles: 5 As you can see, we had less turnovers with Murray... Could that be one of the reasons we had so many points scored against us? Perhaps we gave our opponents excellent field advantage... Just food for thought...I think our defense is better than last season... Nice avatar!
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 2, 2024 6:37:00 GMT -7
The nice part of this article are the player and Rallis videos. Rallis spent his off-season getting to know the first eight opponents. He wanted know, know the play callers and his opponents. The coaches continue to ask the players...do you know, know your position. The emphasis on deep understanding for each individual on the team will help the Cards play better and faster. A couple positive take away's from Roy Lopez: He loves FB, his father is a coach and his family loves FB and the Card coaching staff and how they coach have inspired him to be a coach eventually, he appreciates the coaches love of FB as well as how they coach. There is a building understanding of the quality of the FO and staff, also the players on board and why they enjoy the current state of the franchise. They are hungry dawgs who are ready to shock the league. When you get insight on the many levels of improvements and player buy in the evidence of the process is on track to have success looks bright. The wins are not there yet, but the paving of the road to success is in full effect. There are going to be more growing pains and it is hard to project actual wins and losses, but personally I see all the right changes being made...even more than I would expect.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2024 7:32:04 GMT -7
They always talk about how bad the Cardinals were last year, but never mention all the issues/injuries they had to deal with. I mean they had a new coaching staff, new GM, got rid of a lot of players, starting over etc. Their franchise QB was out for most of the season, they had practice squad players getting heavy rotation on the defensive side. Do they still have issues? Well yeah, it looks like they have a pass rush issue. But I still feel like they upgraded their dline and secondary. Do they fill the holes from last year? Dont know yet, but they have the players. They may not have made a bunch of big name FA moves this off season, but they picked up a lot of durable, hard working players. Which just again shows they are staying the course, building the core. Then when they are ready to make the next step, they start bringing in the star players. But first they are creating the culture, creating the hard work environment where players do whatever it takes for themselves, their teammates and their coaches to succeed. I think next year we will start seeing bigger acquisitions. They got rid of the bad contracts, unless you dont like KM, which then 1 bad contract They got rid of the toxic environment the players talked about and they will now have plenty of money and resources to make some big moves next year. But they definitely have made progress from last year to this year, on paper at least. As we havent seen the regular season yet.
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Post by flash on Sept 2, 2024 7:42:49 GMT -7
Let's analyze our Defensive Stats from 2023 and see where we ranked... Passing Defense... Passing Attempts: 506(Ranked 2nd) Passing Completions: 347(Ranked 9th) Passing Completion Percentage: 67.6(Ranked 31rst) Passing Average Yards Per Completion(Ranked 24th) Passing Yards: 3846(Ranked 12th) Passing Touchdowns:32(Ranked 30th) Passing Interceptions: 11(Ranked 21rst) Passing Sacks: 33(30th) Rushing Defense: Rushing Attempts: 521(Ranked 32nd...the most attempts in the league) Rushing Yards: 2434(Ranked 32nd) Rushing Average Yards Per Carry: 4.7(Ranked 29th) Rushing Touchdowns: 19(Ranked 27th) Rushing Fumbles: 4(Ranked 8th...by the way...8 teams had 4 rushing fumbles) So, as you can see from the stats above...we were not the worst except for two categories... Then why did we have the most points against us? TURNOVERS!!! Is it possible with a fumble or interception, our opponent was already in field goal range? Or very close to Touchdown range? Here are our Turnovers last season while Dobbs, Tune and Murray played... Team while Dobbs was QB Interceptions:5 Fumbles:4 Team for one game that Tune played against the Browns Interceptions:2 Fumbles:1 Team while Murray was QB Interceptions 5 Fumbles: 1 If you add up the Turnovers between Dobbs and Tune: Interceptions: 7 Fumbles: 5 As you can see, we had less turnovers with Murray... Could that be one of the reasons we had so many points scored against us? Perhaps we gave our opponents excellent field advantage... Just food for thought...I think our defense is better than last season... Nice avatar!Thanks EZ...
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Post by MT Diesel on Sept 2, 2024 9:09:29 GMT -7
As per the Cards VS Bills at least Daniel Jerimiah is on board with the Cards beating the Bills, his 28-24 Card victory prediction is the lone national NFL sports media person to pick the Cards.
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Post by Dry Heat on Sept 2, 2024 9:46:49 GMT -7
My hope is we have a #10-ish offense and #20-ish defense and an 8-9 win season. That would be something to build off of for next season, where we have massive cap available for a big free agency, and all these rookies will be sophomores.
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