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MT Diesel
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Balance Aug 28, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -7 via mobile knobby likes this

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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 28, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -7

Here is my take.

I appreciate the positive changes in the FO and coaching staff.

I hate the different spin on projections by national reporters as well as a constant second guessing of every move.

Personally I have high hopes for good comes as per wins and losses. The reality is turning a team in the NFL cellar is a difficult task and there are set backs.

This forum has a wealth of knowledge and there is excitement as well as angst.

Balance in life is always the best advice. Nothing in a sports fan’s experience involves balance, however my encouragement is keep keeping on and try to keep the thought process balanced…there are going to be ups and downs.

Personally I appreciate the many thoughts and opinions on the forum and keep them up. There are going to be some bumps and try to balance the emotions with the many challenges in being a card fan.

That’s my two cents and I am looking forward to the start of another NFL regular season.

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Balance Aug 28, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -7 via mobile knobby, cbltv, and 1 more like this

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Post by CardCore on Aug 28, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -7

Aug 28, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -7 MT Diesel said:

Huh. If I didn’t know better I’d be thinking that you’re trying to suggest that some of us may need to sharpen up on the exercise of …..patience?✌️😂😂😂

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Balance Aug 28, 2024 11:24:58 GMT -7 via mobile FLCardinalFan and cbltv like this

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Aug 28, 2024 11:06:54 GMT -7 CardCore said:

Aug 28, 2024 10:42:12 GMT -7 MT Diesel said:

Huh. If I didn’t know better I’d be thinking that you’re trying to suggest that some of us may need to sharpen up on the exercise of …..patience?✌️😂😂😂

I recommend exercise as well as stretching. Physically, mentally and emotionally…. It’s a long season and we do not need soft tissue injuries to the fan base.

flash
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Balance Aug 30, 2024 11:31:42 GMT -7 knobby likes this

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Post by flash on Aug 30, 2024 11:31:42 GMT -7

Balance...hmm...

Wax On Wax Off...sound familiar?

Is our team more balanced this season than last season? I would say yes...first let's look at the team on these 5 players:

Zay Jones

Darius Robinson

Elijah Jones

B.J. Ojulari

Christian Jones

The two that will have the greatest impact as far as a loss will be Darius Robinson and B.J. Ojulari...Robinson will hopefully be back by week 5 or sooner...both of these players were probably going to be starters...

As far as the other 3, they were probably not going to be starters but back up players...more than likely Zay Jones, Elijah Jones and Christian Jones will be back at the latest by week 6 or sooner...except for Zay Jones...Unless our starters for these 3 positions get injured...we should not have a need for any of them...

B.J. Ojulari is the worst loss because he was going to start his second year and was projected to be our #1 Pass Rusher...but keep this in mind...last season even though he suited up for 17 games...he did not start any games. He was also ranked 16th in tackles last season of our defensive players...yes...it is a shame because we had high expectations from him this season...but keep this in mind...

We beat the Cowboys, Steelers and Eagles without B.J. being a starter on defense...if 3 of our 4 wins last season were against playoff teams...with an improved team on defense and offense this season...on that alone we should be able to win at least 2 more games than last season...

So much for the loss of those players for weeks or the whole season...

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In the game against the Eagles...Greg Dortch was the #1 WR...with Trey McBride coming in second....well...because we have Marvin now...even if he is double covered...we still have Michael Wilson, Greg Dortch, Trey McBride that need to be covered while Marvin is on the field...in the Eagles game last season, I would say that their #1 and #2 CB's or Safeties were covering Dortch and McBride...if a team like the Eagles this season tries to double cover Marvin...who is going to cover Dortch and McBride? Their #2, #3 or #4 Secondary players? Marvin is going to provide us with more than receptions this season...he is going to force the best CB to cover him or best two best CB's of our opponents to cover him leaving the #3 or #4 Secondary to cover Dortch and McBride...

Now, there are two things that could surprise us with our WR Corp...Michael Wilson and Xavier Weaver...

Let's start with Weaver...he is a Rookie...but yet he looked good in Pre Season...so you are thinking that he was playing against #2, #3 or #4 Secondary Players...had Ridder or Tune played against starters of our opponents...Weaver may not have looked so good...but then again...Murray is tenfold better than Ridder or Tune...I think that Weaver will do very good with Murray at QB...don't forget that if Murray is going to throw the ball to Weaver...that means that the best Secondary players are going to be covering Marvin, McBride, Dortch and/or Wilson...that translates into Weaver will be covered by our opponents #3 or #4 Secondary players...weren't those kind of players covering Weaver in Pre Season? The big difference is that Ridder or Tune will not be throwing against those #3 or #4 Secondary players...it will be Murray...

Now let's look at Michael Wilson...first let's start by pointing out that Wilson was a Rookie last season. Dobbs was his QB for 9 games...hmm...and he started 12 of 13 games...so he missed 4 games to injury...now add to that we had a brand new coaching staff...our Offensive Coordinator was a Rookie for the position as well...and need I say our Head Coach that is a Defensive minded Coach...was also a Rookie as a Head Coach...can I throw anymore on top of this...yes...Wilson was drafted in the 3rd round...not in the first round or even second round...not like Rondale Moore who was taken in the second round when he was drafted...Wilson totally outperformed Moore in their first seasons. But now with one season of experience, the coaching staff with one more year of experience and with Murray projected to play the whole season...we might see a Michael Wilson that totally exceeds the play of Michael Wilson last season...

I am still trying to figure out the Pascal signing to the 53 man roster...anyways...my point? I believe that our WR Corp will have balance this coming season...

I have not mentioned Trey McBride...well we know that he was our best receiving player last season...even though he did not start the whole season...because Ertz was the starter to begin the season...McBride did very good last season considering Dobbs played 9 games and we had a new coaching staff and playbook from when he was drafted in 2022...

Our WR/TE Receiving Corp will be the dominant portion of our team...we have balance...

I won't get into our defense on this post...but just with the additions and the removal of Antonio Hamilton and Marco Wilson...our secondary should be much improved...

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Do we have a chance to win the our first game against the Bills? I think so...just on this reason alone...no more Stefon Diggs...

Allen has been very good since his second season with the Bills...Stefon Diggs was his main staple during his past 5 seasons...we will find out if Allen is still as good a QB without Diggs as he was with Diggs on the team...remember what happened when we lost DeAndre Hopkins...we did not have a true WR anymore...did that contribute to to our 4 win season last year...when DeAndre was suspended for 6 weeks in 2022, did that contribute to our 4 win season that year? Though DeAndre started 9 games in 2022, he was still our best WR. Though...Hollywood was right up there with Hopkins in stats...did Hollywood not do so good last season because we did not have a DeAndre to draw the attention of the best CB or our opponents? My point is that without Diggs, Josh Allen may not be as good with his current WR Corp...or...maybe it won't make a difference...

To sum up what I said...it is pretty simple...we should have plenty of BALANCE on offense...and perhaps will almost be BALANCED if we have a good pass rush...otherwise...we will have to wait till the next draft to find a completely BALANCED team on both offense and defense....

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Balance Aug 30, 2024 18:30:51 GMT -7

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Post by BigRedFan on Aug 30, 2024 18:30:51 GMT -7

I saw the Vegas O/U on the season win total for the Cardinals. It's currently at 6.5. This is a fair line
imo, as this team did nothing in the preseason to show me there is talent depth wise anywhere on the o-line
or defensive side of the ball. Zach Wilson had his 15 minutes of fame against the Cardinal depth. Maybe all
offensive and defensive schemes were kept generic by our coordinators but honestly, the team looked awful
in all 3 preseason games.

As I posted in other off season threads, a successful season, imo, has the Cardinals relevant thru November.
Maybe hoping for a Wild Card run in December. As this roster is set for their first game in 9 days, the Cardinals
will have to be injury free all season to even hope for a playoff spot.

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Balance Aug 31, 2024 1:05:36 GMT -7 knobby and cbltv like this

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Post by devongent on Aug 31, 2024 1:05:36 GMT -7

Aug 30, 2024 11:31:42 GMT -7 flash said:

With Elijah Jones and Christian Jones, then there is an interesting dilemma what to do when they are back from injury. Christian was always signed (5th Round) as a development project and him starting much this year was unlikely. However, there is a vacant spot at RT on the Depth Chart and if he hadn't picked up the injury, then I would have had expected to see his name on the roster as he would be at too much risk on the PS (some team could easily decide to take him as a development project themselves). The same scenario is for Elijah, he was drafted third round and the FO must like him a lot. A roster place will need to be found for him too. - So, some interesting roster decisions required going forward (injuries aside), who is likely to be cut from the #53 to make way?

With Zay Jones it would seem more straight forward, after serving his five-game ban he should join the main roster and one of the current WR's will be spat out.

A lot of Jones's, a lot to consider ahead...

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Balance Sept 1, 2024 1:02:42 GMT -7

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Post by End Zone on Sept 1, 2024 1:02:42 GMT -7

sports.yahoo.com/5-offensive-benchmarks-cardinals-successful-154914705.html

On August 31, 2024, Yahoo's Jess Root wrote a piece that describes 5 benchmarks the Cardinals need to achieve to prove a successful season. Root does not forecast the W/L for a successful Cardinals season.

I think Root's benchmarks are realistic. The Cardinals will surprise people in 2024. The team will score if the injury bug does not harm the team further.

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