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Post by CardsFanQC on Aug 26, 2024 3:04:37 GMT -7
The good is Xavier Weaver, Cam Thomas and the recently acquired CFL ST player of the year - Chris Garrett. I saw the latter splash on a few plays including a big TFL (of course the defense squandered it by allowing on the next play Zach Wilson to run 21 yds for a 1st down from a 3rd and 20 situation.
Oh yea - our punter hit a 70 yard punt.
Just glad the regular season starts very soon --
P.S. The other good news was that JG decided to SIT #17 Chisena .. didn't want any more tape on the kid.
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Post by End Zone on Aug 26, 2024 3:08:52 GMT -7
The good is Xavier Weaver, Cam Thomas and the recently acquired CFL ST player of the year - Chris Garrett. I saw the latter splash on a few plays including a big TFL (of course the defense squandered it by allowing on the next play Zach Wilson to run 21 yds for a 1st down from a 3rd and 20 situation. Oh yea - our punter hit a 70 yard punt. Just glad the regular season starts very soon -- P.S. The other good news was that JG decided to SIT #17 Chisena .. didn't want any more tape on the kid. I concur. The goods were few but you listed 99% of them here. I didn't see Garrett or didn't pay attention to him. Thx. |
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Post by CardsFanQC on Aug 26, 2024 3:23:06 GMT -7
This was easy. Good- Weaver Bad- Ridder Ugly- Tune This is probably the time for me to indicate the best backup QB candidate who will be made available in the next 2 days either via trade or cut. That QB is Tyler Huntley of the Browns who have D. Watson, Jameis Winston and DTR -- remember the Cards are #4 on the waiver pickup order. Just saying ..... P.S. What do we make of Demercado and Michael Carter not playing at RB? Was Carter not played because they are going to put him on the 53 man roster and try to hide Demercado on PS, carry 5 RB's, OR .... didn't want Carter to get hurt as he will be traded by tomorrow ? This article has 24 unknown guys who have flashed for teams during this off-season and could be plucked off their teams PS - 24 Underdogs whose Teams will have interesting decision |
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Post by Boomer on Aug 26, 2024 4:34:29 GMT -7
Tomorrow should be interesting to say the least.
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Post by CardCore on Aug 26, 2024 6:21:25 GMT -7
As I said before, Im not going to judge this team based off preseason, as they have chosen to work on the backups vs the starters. However, seeing what they have so far with their backups, I just dont know what to make of it. They have looked horrible the past 3 weeks. The backup oline in particular. Missed assignments, getting over powered, or just getting left in the dust with a swim move. Gaines has looked bad, Colon has been a turnstile, just letting guys in the backfield over and over again. He also has been well out of position on screens, even broke up his own teammates screen. The backup QB spot is in shambles, God forbid they have to come in to spell KM at a critical time. Defensively, the dline has been easily pushed around. Today, they didnt even blitz and left the secondary out on an island and, well you saw it. They made Zach Wilson look like an all pro. Just not much to go off of. The pressure they did get, a lot of times out of containment, not breaking down and just mistackle or running past the QB. I did like Luketa though. We did confirmation that XT,Tip,Melton, Rabbit and DRob are NFL ready...a couple may be good rotation rather than starters and that is okay...add MHJ and the Cards added six NFL ready rookies...that is good news. Weaver looks okay as well and Murphy is marginal on the rotation level. The two OL players look like they have a future and that is a position that takes time to develop. E Jones looks close, he has flashed and also put some bad plays on the tape. Jason Davis has had some flashes as a 7th round pick and a good PS candidate. Palmer has some flashes and also a PS candidate. The scary part is at this point there is close to zero confidence in a back-up QB. The RB and TE room look solid...the OL looks better than we have started a year with in years, the top 3-4 WRs look good. The starting defense is a mystery. The defense has a low bar to be better than in 2023. Rabbit, Williams and Melton give hope the secondary has made vast improvements from 2023. Thank you for being aware enough about the process to be able to wade through the flack and cut to the chase. I believe there are actually people (here! ) that, having watched the Cards lose their preseason games, believe whole heartedly the team sucks. |
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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 26, 2024 7:01:06 GMT -7
We did confirmation that XT,Tip,Melton, Rabbit and DRob are NFL ready...a couple may be good rotation rather than starters and that is okay...add MHJ and the Cards added six NFL ready rookies...that is good news. Weaver looks okay as well and Murphy is marginal on the rotation level. The two OL players look like they have a future and that is a position that takes time to develop. E Jones looks close, he has flashed and also put some bad plays on the tape. Jason Davis has had some flashes as a 7th round pick and a good PS candidate. Palmer has some flashes and also a PS candidate. The scary part is at this point there is close to zero confidence in a back-up QB. The RB and TE room look solid...the OL looks better than we have started a year with in years, the top 3-4 WRs look good. The starting defense is a mystery. The defense has a low bar to be better than in 2023. Rabbit, Williams and Melton give hope the secondary has made vast improvements from 2023. Thank you for being aware enough about the process to be able to wade through the flack and cut to the chase. I believe there are actually people (here! ) that, having watched the Cards lose their preseason games, believe whole heartedly the team sucks. First off hello friend I have less issue with the players who played and more issues with the poor preparation that led to poor performances. It went from meh to bad in the preseason games. Competitiveness in a HC is contagious and this was lacking in the team as a hole. Are Tune and Ridder really that bad…their performances say yes, they are terrible. Monti and Sears missed on both of them as well as the coaches with months did poor preparation as per the backup QBs. As much as the backup OL gets trashed by some on the forum, there are starting OL who are worse. I like the OL and hate QBs that hold on to the ball and can’t anticipate a route opening. The players played well in 2023 and hope the preparation is better going forward. |
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Post by CardCore on Aug 26, 2024 7:21:03 GMT -7
First off hello friend I have less issue with the players who played and more issues with the poor preparation that led to poor performances. It went from meh to bad in the preseason games. Competitiveness in a HC is contagious and this was lacking in the team as a hole. Are Tune and Ridder really that bad…their performances say yes, they are terrible. Monti and Sears missed on both of them as well as the coaches with months did poor preparation as per the backup QBs. As much as the backup OL gets trashed by some on the forum, there are starting OL who are worse. I like the OL and hate QBs that hold on to the ball and can’t anticipate a route opening. The players played well in 2023 and hope the preparation is better going forward. There’s a pretty good article at ROTBs by Walter Mitchell wherein he assesses an article by Josh Weinfus that is his take on each ‘24 Cardinal draft pick following the preseason games. I couldn’t figure out a way to transfer it over here. Edit: hello to you as well my friend.  |
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Post by cbltv on Aug 26, 2024 7:25:43 GMT -7
I saw young marginal WRs in this last game that had No idea how to get open when their QB was under pressure. Had no "hurry" to get back to line of scrimmage in a 2 minute drill. Only Weaver Baccelli & Palmer in that order had any hustle to them. The rest Knew it was their last game and just laid down for this game. Good riddance to them.
The O line was a mixed bag wether they are future players in need of development or 5 yr vets going thru the "motions', Barton was plain bad.
The D was vanilla especially the D-line. There was o blitzing by our D in any of these preseason games. So pressure came from the D-line. Very mixed reviews. Cam Thomas was the most consistent. Luketa and Murphy had Moments Dimujeke(SP?) Can get in the backfield and pressure the QB but his tackling is plain UGHly!
Secondary had a couple of bright spots. But also had more than their fair share of "whiff" plays.
At least It should be evident to anyone who watched this last game, that most of those on the field will Not be on our 53 man roster. Thank God for that!
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Post by CardCore on Aug 26, 2024 8:30:22 GMT -7
Thank you for being aware enough about the process to be able to wade through the flack and cut to the chase. I believe there are actually people (here! ) that, having watched the Cards lose their preseason games, believe whole heartedly the team sucks. First off hello friend I have less issue with the players who played and more issues with the poor preparation that led to poor performances. It went from meh to bad in the preseason games. Competitiveness in a HC is contagious and this was lacking in the team as a hole. Are Tune and Ridder really that bad…their performances say yes, they are terrible. Monti and Sears missed on both of them as well as the coaches with months did poor preparation as per the backup QBs. As much as the backup OL gets trashed by some on the forum, there are starting OL who are worse. I like the OL and hate QBs that hold on to the ball and can’t anticipate a route opening. The players played well in 2023 and hope the preparation is better going forward. I want to believe that JG was so absorbed with sorting out who were the best players to keep (and keep healthy!) that any thoughts of either winning or losing the games were totally secondary. He literally did not care about winning or losing, but instead was quite focused on using those games as a tool. |
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Post by devongent on Aug 26, 2024 11:02:50 GMT -7
Tomorrow should be interesting to say the least. The waiver wire will be running red hot. I want to believe that JG was so absorbed with sorting out who were the best players to keep (and keep healthy!) that any thoughts of either winning or losing the games were totally secondary. He literally did not care about winning or losing, but instead was quite focused on using those games as a tool. I suspect the 'performance' came has a shock and a rude awakening. - Despite everything, sitting out the main players was the right way to go and evaluations on the 'also rans' is now clearer and will be easier to determine. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2024 11:09:38 GMT -7
Tomorrow should be interesting to say the least. The waiver wire will be running red hot. I want to believe that JG was so absorbed with sorting out who were the best players to keep (and keep healthy!) that any thoughts of either winning or losing the games were totally secondary. He literally did not care about winning or losing, but instead was quite focused on using those games as a tool. I suspect the 'performance' came has a shock and a rude awakening. - Despite everything, sitting out the main players was the right way to go and evaluations on the 'also rans' is now clearer and will be easier to determine. Yeah I think at this point the path this team has taken with regards to preseason should help them. My concern is with the backups, but at least they got a lot of film for both coaches and players to work on whatever they are doing wrong. The biggest issue I see with this team, backup wise, is oline and dline. I pray KM is also healthy all year, they dont have a legit backup right now at the QB spot, IMO. But I am very excited to see what this team can do. Benson showed the flashes I was hoping to see and the db's were looking pretty good as well, early in the preseason that is. So still have high hopes, though I still do not believe they are a playoff team this year. |
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Post by CardCore on Aug 26, 2024 11:53:08 GMT -7
From an article by Darren Urban:
Players and staff alike have talked about the type of stress caused by this time of year. But it's also the time that allows Gannon and GM Monti Ossenfort to finalize a roster that they believe can win them games
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Post by cardinalsdo on Aug 26, 2024 11:56:21 GMT -7
Coaching - bad
This team look completely unprepared. In general, I've never been a fan of "rah rah" motivational and disciplinarian coaches. Prefer coaches who are organized and great teachers instead like Andy Reid and even Bruce Arians. I could be wrong and we will see but I was skeptical with his hire to begin with. That Eagles coaching tree and the amount of talent on that defense had a lot to do with Gannon's success.
We can all make excuses and say this is just preseason but every other team is also starting their backups and depth. Every team deals with the same issues yet their backups are executing a lot better than our backups. Why is that? Is it coaching? Is it a lack of talent?
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Post by cardinalsdo on Aug 26, 2024 12:15:17 GMT -7
The waiver wire will be running red hot. I suspect the 'performance' came has a shock and a rude awakening. - Despite everything, sitting out the main players was the right way to go and evaluations on the 'also rans' is now clearer and will be easier to determine. Yeah I think at this point the path this team has taken with regards to preseason should help them. My concern is with the backups, but at least they got a lot of film for both coaches and players to work on whatever they are doing wrong. The biggest issue I see with this team, backup wise, is oline and dline. I pray KM is also healthy all year, they dont have a legit backup right now at the QB spot, IMO. But I am very excited to see what this team can do. Benson showed the flashes I was hoping to see and the db's were looking pretty good as well, early in the preseason that is. So still have high hopes, though I still do not believe they are a playoff team this year. Agreed and the front office has to take some responsibility. If you look at their draft, they used a lot of picks on safeties and corners. We had 4 picks in the 3rd round. You are telling we couldn't have drafted a QB there?
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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 26, 2024 14:32:45 GMT -7
From an article by Darren Urban: Players and staff alike have talked about the type of stress caused by this time of year. But it's also the time that allows Gannon and GM Monti Ossenfort to finalize a roster that they believe can win them games When I get home tonight I will look this up. I |
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