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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 17, 2024 13:26:07 GMT -7
I have hopes that the NFL will change current PS rules. Why? With an expanded season, teams who do a good job scouting talent can spend more time with players to develop them without losing their services and have maybe an inactive portion of a roster beyond the 53 man roster as well as keep PS players as well.
Here is a basic outline of the current PS:
16 player squads
Practice squads were limited to 10 players in 2019, but that was set to change with the new CBA. The number was going to 12 players for 2 years, and then was going to be increased to 14 players in 2022. That all changed when the uncertainty of COVID-19 hit, and the league increased practice squads to 16 players which will once again be the limit in 2023.
Practice squad players moving up to the main roster
Teams now have more flexibility with using practice squad players on game day. PS players can be activated on game day before the team announces their inactives (90 minutes before game time). The player doesn’t have to be elevated from the PS to the main roster for the move. This can happen with up to two practice squad players per week. A player is now able to be elevated three times per season. To be activated a fourth time requires the player to be signed to the regular roster.
This was a big change from past rules, and makes it easier for teams to have players they know and trust on game day, and also not have to subject them to waivers when they are signed to the main roster and cut to get back to the practice squad.
Veteran players
Another change over the last three years is the eligibility requirements for veteran players. Previously teams could have up to 4 players who had two years of NFL experience. Now teams can have 6 veterans with no limit on the amount of accrued seasons they have in the league.
Weekly payment
Practice squad players make $12,000 per week or $216,000 for 18 weeks. Veteran players with over two years of experience will make a minimum of $16,100 per week or $289,800 for 18 weeks, and a maximum of $20,600 per week or $370,800 for 18 weeks.
Signing with the practice squad
Teams must complete their roster cuts by Tuesday August 29th at 4pm, meaning that almost 1,200 players will be released, or placed on an injury list. Teams have until Wednesday at 12:00 noon to claim unvested players that have been waived. Vested veterans (players with a minimum of 4 accrued seasons) will be free agents immediately and are able to sign with any team.
What I am suggesting isn't a 69 man roster, but rather a 53 man roster, an un-active and protected roster and players under the current PS rules.
An example:
53 man roster who is from a pool of maybe 60 players. The other 7 who are not on the 53 man roster for each game week are non-active roster players who are contracted like the 53 man roster players and are protected by the team and a pool to protect against injuries or are options for match-up issues and such.
The additional 9 players would fall under the current PS rules.
This would reward teams to develop more players and enhance the quality of the NFL games and protect the teams better against some injury issues. This also doesn't allow a total amount of sandbagging players. As well as still allows movement in the PS players among teams.
What are your thoughts?
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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 25, 2024 5:10:49 GMT -7
When originally posted this thread didn't get traction. With the injuries mounting it is relivent.
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Post by knobby on Aug 25, 2024 11:59:39 GMT -7
When originally posted this thread didn't get traction. With the injuries mounting it is relivent.
It was appropriate even if no commentary resulted.
Lots of relevant ideas on forums occur, but unless those ideas are then seen, heard, or absorbed through the ether into the brains of coaches, owners and his highness Roger Goodall, then we fans are the only ones to benefit or discuss further.
That's normal, I guess. How many of those with controlling powers ever read fan forums?
Still, if a general consensus is reached by the fans and public, then perhaps those same
thoughts can become so powerful that eventually they are felt - and acted upon - by the
aforementioned power brokers. Call it the creation of a mental virus, for lack of a better comparison.
Conclusion: Keep up the good work. One never knows when a tiny spark may ignite a firestorm.
IMHO
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Post by MT Diesel on Aug 25, 2024 12:06:04 GMT -7
When originally posted this thread didn't get traction. With the injuries mounting it is relivent.
It was appropriate even if no commentary resulted.
Lots of relevant ideas on forums occur, but unless those ideas are then seen, heard, or absorbed through the ether into the brains of coaches, owners and his highness Roger Goodall, then we fans are the only ones to benefit or discuss further.
That's normal, I guess. How many of those with controlling powers ever read fan forums?
Still, if a general consensus is reached by the fans and public, then perhaps those same
thoughts can become so powerful that eventually they are felt - and acted upon - by the
aforementioned power brokers. Call it the creation of a mental virus, for lack of a better comparison.
Conclusion: Keep up the good work. One never knows when a tiny spark may ignite a firestorm.
IMHO
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Post by devongent on Aug 26, 2024 10:55:30 GMT -7
Whatever the mechanism, I think a way needs to be found which allows teams to keep on board (protected) younger players, say within the first two years of drafting. It would allow teams to focus on development without the fear of a player being snaffled once they show promise. Over the recent past I believe the Cardinals have gained more from the current set-up, but that reflects our present poor ranking. |
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Aug 28, 2024 13:33:25 GMT -7
In my humble opinion I think there will definitely changes as far as how the practice squad players are handled. It's well known that the available wants to go to an 18-game regular season and that of course means more injuries.
One possibility which I think all teams would like would be to have something similar to the NBA's two-way contracts where in the NFL practice squad players could play in so many games and still be sent back to the practice squad. For example let's say seven games where players on the practice squad will be able to play in seven games without being added to the 53-man roster permanently.
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Post by CardsFanQC on Aug 28, 2024 14:42:40 GMT -7
My question -- Michael Carter had a salary of around $3M and he was cut clearing waivers. So when he signs with PS ... is his salary freed up for Cap Space purposes?
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Post by belac44 on Aug 28, 2024 14:47:31 GMT -7
My question -- Michael Carter had a salary of around $3M and he was cut clearing waivers. So when he signs with PS ... is his salary freed up for Cap Space purposes? Correct, that contract is gone. Practice squad contracts can vary, but his old contract is null and void. |
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Post by CardsFanQC on Aug 28, 2024 16:13:59 GMT -7
My question -- Michael Carter had a salary of around $3M and he was cut clearing waivers. So when he signs with PS ... is his salary freed up for Cap Space purposes? Correct, that contract is gone. Practice squad contracts can vary, but his old contract is null and void. Monti is shrewd ... get the guy back and on sale. This is what I figured would happen but it seemed almost too good to be true ... Cardinals never get this lucky. |
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Post by belac44 on Aug 28, 2024 16:26:21 GMT -7
Correct, that contract is gone. Practice squad contracts can vary, but his old contract is null and void. Monti is shrewd ... get the guy back and on sale. This is what I figured would happen but it seemed almost too good to be true ... Cardinals never get this lucky. I think RB is a position you can risk that. So easy to find a guy that can play. I am a fan of Carter for sure and I hope he sticks around. One injury across the league and he could get plucked. Heck, that could be on our own team. Glad he and a few others are still around for now. |
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Post by ricardo on Aug 28, 2024 16:26:26 GMT -7
In my humble opinion I think there will definitely changes as far as how the practice squad players are handled. It's well known that the available wants to go to an 18-game regular season and that of course means more injuries. One possibility which I think all teams would like would be to have something similar to the NBA's two-way contracts where in the NFL practice squad players could play in so many games and still be sent back to the practice squad. For example let's say seven games where players on the practice squad will be able to play in seven games without being added to the 53-man roster permanently. I would imagine the PS $ would take a big jump for this scenario. |
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Post by jeffcardinalfan on Aug 29, 2024 3:40:14 GMT -7
In my humble opinion I think there will definitely changes as far as how the practice squad players are handled. It's well known that the available wants to go to an 18-game regular season and that of course means more injuries. One possibility which I think all teams would like would be to have something similar to the NBA's two-way contracts where in the NFL practice squad players could play in so many games and still be sent back to the practice squad. For example let's say seven games where players on the practice squad will be able to play in seven games without being added to the 53-man roster permanently. I would imagine the PS $ would take a big jump for this scenario. I agree with you. I still think it will happen or something similar. They might even decide to increase the 53-man roster. The NFL the last several decades has made decisions that are actually hurting the league so they'll probably screw this up as well |
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Post by belac44 on Aug 29, 2024 7:01:13 GMT -7
I would imagine the PS $ would take a big jump for this scenario. I agree with you. I still think it will happen or something similar. They might even decide to increase the 53-man roster. The NFL the last several decades has made decisions that are actually hurting the league so they'll probably screw this up as well If they add another game to the season, they have to adjust the roster size or implement untouchable PS players in some form. I would love to see an expanded roster. |
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Post by Vesely22 on Aug 29, 2024 11:43:11 GMT -7
An example: 53 man roster who is from a pool of maybe 60 players. The other 7 who are not on the 53 man roster for each game week are non-active roster players who are contracted like the 53 man roster players and are protected by the team and a pool to protect against injuries or are options for match-up issues and such. The additional 9 players would fall under the current PS rules. This would reward teams to develop more players and enhance the quality of the NFL games and protect the teams better against some injury issues. This also doesn't allow a total amount of sandbagging players. As well as still allows movement in the PS players among teams. What are your thoughts? I like the idea overall. One caveat, the first 7 "protected" players could be a soft protection meaning that if a team wanted to take one of these 7 players, they would have to give up a 4th round draft pick to poach said player. |
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Post by End Zone on Aug 31, 2024 8:01:06 GMT -7
An example: 53 man roster who is from a pool of maybe 60 players. The other 7 who are not on the 53 man roster for each game week are non-active roster players who are contracted like the 53 man roster players and are protected by the team and a pool to protect against injuries or are options for match-up issues and such. The additional 9 players would fall under the current PS rules. This would reward teams to develop more players and enhance the quality of the NFL games and protect the teams better against some injury issues. This also doesn't allow a total amount of sandbagging players. As well as still allows movement in the PS players among teams. What are your thoughts? I like the idea overall. One caveat, the first 7 "protected" players could be a soft protection meaning that if a team wanted to take one of these 7 players, they would have to give up a 4th round draft pick to poach said player. I'm not a fan of teams being forced to give up tomorrow's draft picks to make themselves whole today. Who gets the sacrificed draft pick? Nobody. The sacrificed pick just disappears. When a draft pick disappears, a potential rookie is not selected. The annual NFL Draft provides 224 jobs to rookies. Each draft pick is a coveted professional job. Why on earth would the richest sports corporation not be interested in preserving the best professional sports jobs? I think the Practice Squad concept has enough flexibility to accommodate team's needs. When COVID hammered the U.S., the NFL made rapid adjustments to protect players and also keep teams whole. |
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