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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 13:50:03 GMT -7
Saw this article: Cardinals Listed as Landing Spot for All-Pro CB With Sean Murphy-Bunting signed in free agency as the lone veteran, the Cardinals are banking on any of their young talent to take a step up in 2024. Bleacher Report believes they need another vet in the room, listing Arizona as a potential landing spot for Philadelphia Eagles cornerback James Bradberry on the trade market: "Bradberry is set to carry a cap hit of only $4.3 million this season, but he has $15.1 million in dead money remaining on his deal. He's a potential cut candidate after the Eagles drafted both Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper DeJean, even though releasing Bradberry would create no additional 2024 cap space," wrote Kristopher Knox. Full article: www.si.com/nfl/cardinals/arizona-cardinals-latest-news/cardinals-listed-landing-spot-all-pro-cb |
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Post by thomas cat on Jul 20, 2024 18:14:49 GMT -7
This is only my opinion, but I do not want sign anyone that is 30 years old. He may be decent for a while, but we are not looking for stop gap players. This is the time to develope in house young players. He might help for a year or two, but he will take up a roster place and playing time from younger/cheaper players that may end up being better....and will develope under JG's and Nick Rallis philosophies.
Stay the course, stay young and cheap. Believe me, some of these guys will rise to the occasion and our team will be better for it.
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Post by MT Diesel on Jul 20, 2024 18:23:43 GMT -7
I am in the camp of Monti did plenty in giving coaches plenty of talent for the roster starter options and depth in 2024...despite many in the national media thinking the Cards are years away from a positive jump for playoff contention. The team is young and there are growing pains with youth. The investment in giving young players playing experience in 2024 is more important than stunting their growth on the bench with more vet FAs getting their snaps.
Monti is all about improving the roster...there is also advantages in seeing what they have built so far without bringing in additional bodies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2024 18:59:02 GMT -7
This is only my opinion, but I do not want sign anyone that is 30 years old. He may be decent for a while, but we are not looking for stop gap players. This is the time to develope in house young players. He might help for a year or two, but he will take up a roster place and playing time from younger/cheaper players that may end up being better....and will develope under JG's and Nick Rallis philosophies. Stay the course, stay young and cheap. Believe me, some of these guys will rise to the occasion and our team will be better for it. I totally agree. Keep it young. Let the young players figure it out and get experience with play time |
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Post by devongent on Jul 21, 2024 0:16:28 GMT -7
Agree with you all.
We have partly gone down the 'vet route' at WR with the signings of Zay Jones and Chris Moore. - It will be interesting to see if they both make the 53-roster, or whether the youth-movement prevails and one of these two is cut.
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Post by devongent on Jul 21, 2024 0:31:04 GMT -7
Monti is all about improving the roster...there is also advantages in seeing what they have built so far without bringing in additional bodies. I don't think there is a dire need to sign any particular player, or for any specific position. That doesn't mean, of course, that we won't. Should a good opportunity present, and at reasonable cost, we may upgrade. With all the new talent on board, then the FO could decide the 2024 season is the right time to give all the opportunity to prove their worth. |
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Post by cardinalsins on Jul 21, 2024 4:53:36 GMT -7
Monti is all about improving the roster...there is also advantages in seeing what they have built so far without bringing in additional bodies. I don't think there is a dire need to sign any particular player, or for any specific position. That doesn't mean, of course, that we won't. Should a good opportunity present, and at reasonable cost, we may upgrade. With all the new talent on board, then the FO could decide the 2024 season is the right time to give all the opportunity to prove their worth. I think we still need help on the DL. No FAs that are worth chasing after though... |
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Post by MT Diesel on Jul 21, 2024 7:45:41 GMT -7
I don't think there is a dire need to sign any particular player, or for any specific position. That doesn't mean, of course, that we won't. Should a good opportunity present, and at reasonable cost, we may upgrade. With all the new talent on board, then the FO could decide the 2024 season is the right time to give all the opportunity to prove their worth. I think we still need help on the DL. No FAs that are worth chasing after though... What is the basis you feel the DL is in need of help? I have an idea for the basis of your comment. The Cards signed three vets and used a 1st round pick on DL. I love Robinson with his length , strength and leadership in college. Stills, Lopez and Collier are ones from last year. They also signed Murphy who I believe will surprise many...not in stats but ability to impact the interior. The Cards DL has had a major rebuild and like CB, at some point we have to see what happens in camp and how they play in the regular season. Like Devongent I believe if the opportunity to improve arises...of course take the opportunity to improve. I do not see the DL in as poor of a position as most. There is a need to get the entire defense in sync with all the new additions. Tonga and Murphy and Lopez look to be the NT rotation players currently. This in many ways is the heart and foundation of the rest of the defense and the improvement from 2023 to 2024 is significant in quality and depth. I really hoped Fotu would play well in the NFL near what he did at Utah and he just floundered. Tonga is Fotu's body type with much better results in the NFL. Lopez is a quality rotational DT and Murphy shined in NC...I think he will be a solid DT rotation player as well. These three players will take on blockers and help Jones, Nichols and Robinson as DEs to succeed on the interior. Jones brings attitude and leadership as well as good win rates and QB pressure. 2024 DL is bigger stronger and has more quality depth. |
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Post by ricardo on Jul 21, 2024 8:49:47 GMT -7
Should they not see what shakes out in TC? Maybe a cut player here or there from another team that could be an improvement if need be.
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Post by cardinal225 on Jul 21, 2024 14:39:09 GMT -7
I think we still need help on the DL. No FAs that are worth chasing after though... What is the basis you feel the DL is in need of help? I have an idea for the basis of your comment. The Cards signed three vets and used a 1st round pick on DL. I love Robinson with his length , strength and leadership in college. Stills, Lopez and Collier are ones from last year. They also signed Murphy who I believe will surprise many...not in stats but ability to impact the interior. The Cards DL has had a major rebuild and like CB, at some point we have to see what happens in camp and how they play in the regular season. Like Devongent I believe if the opportunity to improve arises...of course take the opportunity to improve. I do not see the DL in as poor of a position as most. There is a need to get the entire defense in sync with all the new additions. Tonga and Murphy and Lopez look to be the NT rotation players currently. This in many ways is the heart and foundation of the rest of the defense and the improvement from 2023 to 2024 is significant in quality and depth. I really hoped Fotu would play well in the NFL near what he did at Utah and he just floundered. Tonga is Fotu's body type with much better results in the NFL. Lopez is a quality rotational DT and Murphy shined in NC...I think he will be a solid DT rotation player as well. These three players will take on blockers and help Jones, Nichols and Robinson as DEs to succeed on the interior. Jones brings attitude and leadership as well as good win rates and QB pressure. 2024 DL is bigger stronger and has more quality depth. on paper we are improved |
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Post by BigRedFan on Jul 25, 2024 17:10:17 GMT -7
I want to see Max and Kei'Trel perform in training camp and pre-season. I get veteran leadership can help young
players, but I'd rather the the sophomore and rookie not be robbed of snaps by a veteran signing at least at this
point in the off season. There's always the waiver wire if their is concern about the CB room.
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Post by flash on Jul 27, 2024 12:48:52 GMT -7
I found this on the Cardinals Website....
Hmm...Could Garrett become one of our outside CB's instead of our Nickel CB?
Earlier this morning...I saw that Garrett Williams was an outside CB in college...
I also think that I had read somewhere that Garrett has had a pretty good training camp so far...
The quote above...makes me think that maybe he was drafted to be an outside CB and not a Nickel CB...could it be that because he was recovery from his college injury that is why he played Nickel last season...I am curious to see how this pans out....
Will Garrett have a break out season? We drafted 3 CB's this year...seems to me that Gannon is trying to fix the huge hole we had at that position last season. Do I expect immediate results from the CB's we drafted? Not really...however...I look at our Rookie CB's like this...
Garrett started 6 of 9 games when he returned from injury...how good would he have been if he had started training camp, pre season and much sooner in the regular season last year? I say this because, just maybe...Max Melton will break out this season and not next season....
Bunting, Garrett and Melton sound one hell of a lot better than what we had last season...I feel much more confident in our secondary for a couple of reasons... _____
First we have Rabbit...I found this about him on a Giants article because they were considering drafting him...
It sounds like he can fill multiple roles in our Secondary... _____
We have Garrett with half a season of experience... _____
We still have Buddha and Thompson _____
Melton was a 2nd round pick...surely he may become a starter at CB whether it be Outside or Slot... _____
We picked up two other DB's in the later rounds.... _____
But the most important thing is that Marco Wilson and Antonio Hamilton are not on the roster anymore...I did not think that Hamilton was that great...think about it...wasn't he the #2 CB behind Marco Wilson last season? What does that tell you?
Anyways, I can't wait to see our rebuilt secondary in Pre Season....
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Post by cbltv on Jul 30, 2024 18:47:50 GMT -7
Sean Murphy-Bunting signed a three year, $22.5 million contract with the Cardinals. $17.39 million is guaranteed of which $14.195 million is fully guaranteed at signing. The signing bonus is $6 million and his 2024 and $4.5 million of his 2025 salaries are guaranteed. If on the roster on the 3rd day of the 2025 league year his full 2025 salary will be fully guaranteed. There are annual per game and workout bonuses as part of the contract. Max Melton: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2024) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Sign Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2024 22 $795,000 $821,056 $795,000 $1,616,056 0.6% $6,931,266 ($5,315,210) 2025 23 $1,199,014 $821,056 $1,199,014 $2,020,070 0.8% $5,315,210 ($3,295,140) 2026 24 $1,603,028 $821,056 $1,603,028 $2,424,084 0.9% $3,295,140 ($871,056) 2027 25 $2,007,042 $821,056 $50,000 $2,828,098 0.9% $871,056 $1,957,042 Total $5,604,084 $3,284,224 $3,647,042 $8,888,308 Garrett Williams: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2023) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Signing Bonus Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2023 22 $750,000 $274,533 $924,533 0.4% 2024 23 $1,006,133 $274,533 $1,280,666 0.5% $823,599 $457,067 2025 24 $1,262,266 $274,533 $1,536,799 0.6 $549,066 $987,733 2026 25 $1,518,399 $274,533 $1,792,932 0.6% $274,533 $1,518,399 Total $4,536,798 $1,098,132 $5,534,930 (love how this forum set up screws up the spacings)  |
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Post by End Zone on Jul 31, 2024 3:15:41 GMT -7
Sean Murphy-Bunting signed a three year, $22.5 million contract with the Cardinals. $17.39 million is guaranteed of which $14.195 million is fully guaranteed at signing. The signing bonus is $6 million and his 2024 and $4.5 million of his 2025 salaries are guaranteed. If on the roster on the 3rd day of the 2025 league year his full 2025 salary will be fully guaranteed. There are annual per game and workout bonuses as part of the contract. Max Melton: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2024) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Sign Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2024 22 $795,000 $821,056 $795,000 $1,616,056 0.6% $6,931,266 ($5,315,210) 2025 23 $1,199,014 $821,056 $1,199,014 $2,020,070 0.8% $5,315,210 ($3,295,140) 2026 24 $1,603,028 $821,056 $1,603,028 $2,424,084 0.9% $3,295,140 ($871,056) 2027 25 $2,007,042 $821,056 $50,000 $2,828,098 0.9% $871,056 $1,957,042 Total $5,604,084 $3,284,224 $3,647,042 $8,888,308 Garrett Williams: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2023) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Signing Bonus Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2023 22 $750,000 $274,533 $924,533 0.4% 2024 23 $1,006,133 $274,533 $1,280,666 0.5% $823,599 $457,067 2025 24 $1,262,266 $274,533 $1,536,799 0.6 $549,066 $987,733 2026 25 $1,518,399 $274,533 $1,792,932 0.6% $274,533 $1,518,399 Total $4,536,798 $1,098,132 $5,534,930 (love how this forum set up screws up the spacings) cbltv, thx. I don't understand the feedback. Pls clarify. Are you recommending a 'space' formatting change? If yes, I can look into it today. If you are talking about CAP space, good luck with MO! - EZ |
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Post by cbltv on Jul 31, 2024 6:13:17 GMT -7
Sean Murphy-Bunting signed a three year, $22.5 million contract with the Cardinals. $17.39 million is guaranteed of which $14.195 million is fully guaranteed at signing. The signing bonus is $6 million and his 2024 and $4.5 million of his 2025 salaries are guaranteed. If on the roster on the 3rd day of the 2025 league year his full 2025 salary will be fully guaranteed. There are annual per game and workout bonuses as part of the contract. Max Melton: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2024) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Sign Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2024 22 $795,000 $821,056 $795,000 $1,616,056 0.6% $6,931,266 ($5,315,210) 2025 23 $1,199,014 $821,056 $1,199,014 $2,020,070 0.8% $5,315,210 ($3,295,140) 2026 24 $1,603,028 $821,056 $1,603,028 $2,424,084 0.9% $3,295,140 ($871,056) 2027 25 $2,007,042 $821,056 $50,000 $2,828,098 0.9% $871,056 $1,957,042 Total $5,604,084 $3,284,224 $3,647,042 $8,888,308 Garrett Williams: Current Contract(Drafted, signed 2023) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Signing Bonus Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1) 2023 22 $750,000 $274,533 $924,533 0.4% 2024 23 $1,006,133 $274,533 $1,280,666 0.5% $823,599 $457,067 2025 24 $1,262,266 $274,533 $1,536,799 0.6 $549,066 $987,733 2026 25 $1,518,399 $274,533 $1,792,932 0.6% $274,533 $1,518,399 Total $4,536,798 $1,098,132 $5,534,930 (love how this forum set up screws up the spacings) cbltv, thx. I don't understand the feedback. Pls clarify. Are you recommending a 'space' formatting change? If yes, I can look into it today. If you are talking about CAP space, good luck with MO! - EZ Yes the space formatting messes up tables badly. I went back and straightened out the 1st Line of Melton's contract thru editing. But decided to much work to restraighten it all. Was going to list more CB contracts but the mess was too much work to clean up. I listed these 3 because they are the most likely starters contract wise. I do Not see Bunting being upended by any other Free agent or rookie to start this season not with the Money he got. U don't throw away $25 mil... do you? |
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