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Post by Dry Heat on Jun 17, 2024 10:40:33 GMT -7
My understanding is neither special team blockers or tacklers can move until the ball hits the ground or a player. Imagine having your back to the ball touching either and having to wait until the tacklers begin moving. Maybe they will allow some signal called out from the sideline? I imagine tacklers will play all sorts of tricks to draw blockers offsides or cause movement. The tacklers get to move first and get a head of steam going into the blockers. The returner gets a head of steam as well and doesn’t need to worry about being hit early. It seems both returner and tacklers will meet around where the blockers will just be beginning to move in reaction to the tacklers, and that area will be a mess. Some tacklers will surely stay back as sort of special teams “safeties” for when the returner breaches the initial line of tacklers. It will be wild.
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Post by End Zone on Jun 21, 2024 7:10:09 GMT -7
My understanding is neither special team blockers or tacklers can move until the ball hits the ground or a player. Imagine having your back to the ball touching either and having to wait until the tacklers begin moving. Maybe they will allow some signal called out from the sideline? I imagine tacklers will play all sorts of tricks to draw blockers offsides or cause movement. The tacklers get to move first and get a head of steam going into the blockers. The returner gets a head of steam as well and doesn’t need to worry about being hit early. It seems both returner and tacklers will meet around where the blockers will just be beginning to move in reaction to the tacklers, and that area will be a mess. Some tacklers will surely stay back as sort of special teams “safeties” for when the returner breaches the initial line of tacklers. It will be wild. DH, You likely know about the YT team videos. There are a few YT videos showing teams at OTAs doing ST training for the new KO rule. I watched a few of the ST videos for the Cardinals, but did not see any onfield and sideline trickery. Most guys were going through the repetitions so their reactions to KOs did not result in penalties. If I see any YT videos that show tactics, other than common repetition training episodes, I'll post the videos at this thread. Thanks! EZ |
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Post by CardCore on Jun 21, 2024 7:31:17 GMT -7
I'm wondering if return teams
are restricted to a single return man? Or...can they have 2 or 3? If so, are laterals ok?
Also...can a forward pass be launched by the return man?
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Post by CardsFanQC on Jun 21, 2024 7:49:53 GMT -7
My understanding is neither special team blockers or tacklers can move until the ball hits the ground or a player. Imagine having your back to the ball touching either and having to wait until the tacklers begin moving. Maybe they will allow some signal called out from the sideline? I imagine tacklers will play all sorts of tricks to draw blockers offsides or cause movement. The tacklers get to move first and get a head of steam going into the blockers. The returner gets a head of steam as well and doesn’t need to worry about being hit early. It seems both returner and tacklers will meet around where the blockers will just be beginning to move in reaction to the tacklers, and that area will be a mess. Some tacklers will surely stay back as sort of special teams “safeties” for when the returner breaches the initial line of tacklers. It will be wild. The new rules for special teams seems to me to have been contemplated by JG/ST Coach Rodgers/Month which is why Deejay Dallas was one of their first FA signings and IMO could bring even more value from blocking-deluxe TE Tip Reiman. It seems in the future UDFA's will be full of guys who scored well in 3-cone and 20 yd shuttle times. The NFL ST coaches are trying to figure out if the returner should be short and shifty (e.g. Dortch) or a bigger guy who is fast but whose excellence is breaking tackles in opening field (e.g. Trey Benson ?). My initial thought as I read the new rules is to use TE "TIP" at 270 lbs who can run a 4.55 40 time as the "fullback" to be a lead blocker running about 4 yds ahead of the returner and his job is to blow up the very first unblocked defender. Additionally I am intrigued by having Trey Benson at 218 lbs, and has reputation to be able to break tackles as a RB once he gets to 2nd level, to be the returner. BTW: 2016 David Johnson IMO would be perfect for these new rules as that year by far he led the NFL in Yards after contact and of course had kickoff TD returns. |
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Post by End Zone on Jun 21, 2024 14:04:55 GMT -7
My understanding is neither special team blockers or tacklers can move until the ball hits the ground or a player. Imagine having your back to the ball touching either and having to wait until the tacklers begin moving. Maybe they will allow some signal called out from the sideline? I imagine tacklers will play all sorts of tricks to draw blockers offsides or cause movement. The tacklers get to move first and get a head of steam going into the blockers. The returner gets a head of steam as well and doesn’t need to worry about being hit early. It seems both returner and tacklers will meet around where the blockers will just be beginning to move in reaction to the tacklers, and that area will be a mess. Some tacklers will surely stay back as sort of special teams “safeties” for when the returner breaches the initial line of tacklers. It will be wild. The new rules for special teams seems to me to have been contemplated by JG/ST Coach Rodgers/Month which is why Deejay Dallas was one of their first FA signings and IMO could bring even more value from blocking-deluxe TE Tip Reiman. It seems in the future UDFA's will be full of guys who scored well in 3-cone and 20 yd shuttle times. The NFL ST coaches are trying to figure out if the returner should be short and shifty (e.g. Dortch) or a bigger guy who is fast but whose excellence is breaking tackles in opening field (e.g. Trey Benson ?). My initial thought as I read the new rules is to use TE "TIP" at 270 lbs but can run a 4.55 40 time as the "fullback" to be a lead blocker running about 4 yds ahead of the returner and his job is to blow up the very first unblocked defender. Additionally I am intrigued by having Trey Benson at 218 lbs, and has reputation to be able to break tackles as a RB once he gets to 2nd level, to be the returner. BTW: 2016 David Johnson IMO would be perfect for these new rules as that year by far he led the NFL in Yards after contact and of course had kickoff TD returns. DJ was amazing his first couple years. Then his body let him down and his mind questioned the cost of all that physical punishment. Many of us say the new contract killed his appetite for the game. I don't think that was the issue. His body gave out. He became average. |
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Post by cardinalsins on Aug 9, 2024 6:04:28 GMT -7
Some special teams coordinator is going g to earn his pay this year.
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Post by Dry Heat on Aug 9, 2024 9:29:32 GMT -7
Some special teams coordinator is going g to earn his pay this year. I see higher scoring games and special teams being a true third leg of the stool again. |
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Post by knobby on Aug 9, 2024 12:39:46 GMT -7
Some special teams coordinator is going to earn his pay this year.
And whoever that may be will be copied immediately by 31 others.
Rinse and repeat, until the league eliminates the kickoff, contact and pads,
converting to flag "football" with helmets only... with no favoritism toward
male, female or all the variations thereto. Artistic performance and
techniques will earn points, a la figure skating. The days of gladiators on the gridiron will be just unfortunate, misguided history.
That's the way the future looks from this perch, but I might be biased just a wee amount. 
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