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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 17, 2024 19:50:05 GMT -7
This is definitely doable if the cardinals have a Qb they desire at the 2nd pick and as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What a team would pay for KM is a plus considering what they will be going for soon. Yes it definitely could happen All depends on how much Washington likes him and if there is a guy the Cardinals like more then KM. Seriously though thinking everything over Giants are not gonna trade with us they know niether the cardinals nor chragers are gonna draft Qb and as I said Minnesota is not gonna give up much for the fourth Qb off the board. The only one I can see possibly is Denver and it would take a spcial player because they don't have the picks. The cardinals trading back just is not very likely I think trading back is dang near dead in the water. Cardinals are gonna stay at 4 and draft a player they want in my opinion. Let's look at that KM contract costs again, and the going rate for a new contract for a veteran starting QB. $50M a year is the new benchmark for a top 5 QB--which Murray isn't! Murray's contract is comparatively cheap for the Cardinals and a trade suitor in 2024 and 2025. If some other team really wants Murray--which I frankly don't see happening--, then the finances can be worked out so that Cardinals don't have to pay Murray to play for another team (aka DEN and QB Wilson at PIT). I shudder to think about starting over again with a rookie QB. Of the top 3 QBs this Draft, I like all three more than rookie QB Murray in 2019. But if we're going to do it--draft a rookie QB and start over, now is the time. Rebuilding is ongoing since 2023 and likely though 2025. Washington is not going to pony up extra picks and eat the cost of a veteran QB at the same time. That's nonsensical for a team trying to get on its feet. Washington is in a great spot to grab Daniels or Maye and I think they will do well with either QB. I predict: Williams goes to CHI. Maye goes to WAS. Daniels goes to NE. McCarthy goes to NYG. Murray plays for Gannon in 2024. It's still doable and some still think KM can be a top 5 Qb I am not one of them though.One thing you are not considering supply in demand and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Now I don't think this would happen I just simply think it is doable in certain situations. As for Maye beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I am not a fan of Maye and he could possibly be the 2nd pick or later IMO. I think KM get's one more season and then the Cardinals will decide if KM stays on as a Cardinal.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 17, 2024 19:55:15 GMT -7
To be honest here…even if a trade were financially feasible…which it’s not…I personally think that the relationship btw KK and KM is over…I don’t think KK did anything to really enhance and develop the career of KM…other then perhaps advocating for the Cardinals to draft him number 1 overall…and I think KM down deep knows that…and would not want anything to do with KK a 2nd time around…IMO. I agree. Only I would expand it to KK saying hell no to another go 'round w/K1. Making the feeling mutual. Pretty sure KK remembers the disrespect and every game Murray was out. I agree there is no way those two can work together again. Washington will decide who is more important if they wanted KM which I really don't believe they are interested in KM.
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Post by Redbirdfan62 on Apr 17, 2024 19:57:43 GMT -7
This is definitely doable if the cardinals have a Qb they desire at the 2nd pick and as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What a team would pay for KM is a plus considering what they will be going for soon. Yes it definitely could happen All depends on how much Washington likes him and if there is a guy the Cardinals like more then KM. Seriously though thinking everything over Giants are not gonna trade with us they know niether the cardinals nor chragers are gonna draft Qb and as I said Minnesota is not gonna give up much for the fourth Qb off the board. The only one I can see possibly is Denver and it would take a spcial player because they don't have the picks. The cardinals trading back just is not very likely I think trading back is dang near dead in the water. Cardinals are gonna stay at 4 and draft a player they want in my opinion. I think this is either going to be the wildest draft we've had in decades or the boringest. Common sense for dictate that giving up three first round picks to pick a quarterback is a high risk high reward situation but it seems like almost none of these quarterbacks pan out when the drafting team gives up the farm for them. Minnesota might actually going to the season with Donald as their quarterback. The broncos are the team that's absolutely desperate. The Giants can struggle on with Jones instead of giving up the farm but denver, they're in trouble. They don't have a quarterback on the roster I don't think that's ever started NFL game. I am gonna laugh my butt off if there are no trades everyone stays where they are and make their pick. Denver and Minnesota I think they shot themselves in the foot lol.
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Post by JAB on Apr 17, 2024 20:37:57 GMT -7
Washington gives up their first round pick number two this year and their second round pick next year for Drum roll please... Kyler Murray Thoughts on this? Done do it. The quarterback would be on a rookie deal anyway so kyler's dead money wouldn't matter.
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Post by NorthernSoul on Apr 18, 2024 3:56:53 GMT -7
Hasn't working with Kyler already cost KK one job already? Not sure he will be banging the table to recreate that.
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Post by supercard on Apr 18, 2024 11:59:44 GMT -7
Washington gives up their first round pick number two this year and their second round pick next year for Drum roll please... Kyler Murray Thoughts on this? No, the learning curve throws the rebuilding back at least two years. That’s even if the qb pans out. KM proved he can operate at times under center. IMO, KM is going to have a great year. Particularly if we drafted one of the elite 3 wr. The Cardinals are going to use the ground game and play action to great effect.
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Post by Dry Heat on Apr 18, 2024 12:52:02 GMT -7
Washington gives up their first round pick number two this year and their second round pick next year for Drum roll please... Kyler Murray Thoughts on this? No, the learning curve throws the rebuilding back at least two years. That’s even if the qb pans out. KM proved he can operate at times under center. IMO, KM is going to have a great year. Particularly if we drafted one of the elite 3 wr. The Cardinals are going to use the ground game and play action to great effect. I agree. Williams isn’t an automatic upgrade to DHump but could be close. Paris has that rough rookie year behind him. Gaines should be healthy to help at G or C. We likely draft a G. The TE and RB rooms are solid and continue success from last year, all with more time in the system and a full off-season with Kyler, who will be even more comfortable under center and in Gannon’s offense this year. Upgrade Hollywood with a legit WR1 and add another WR later in this talented draft, and with now respected Dortch and sophomore Michael Wilson we are set on offense. Don’t sleep on FA WR Chris Moore. My worry remains defense. The capacity of putting up a ton of points doesn’t matter if you’re offense can’t get on the field and playing from behind limits your playbook.
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